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Volume selection ?

Volume selection ?

2004-06-17       - By Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane

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There is no straightforward way.

Volume and collision objects in the SDK are logged wishes (I logged them
myself during the last two cycles and I’m sure others want them as well) but
they are not an easy implementation.



You’ll have to write your own volume checking, that with a polygonal object
can be fairly expensive.



It’s now about a year I’m struggling to keep my library updated but it takes
some proper coding to do it properly (caching and optimized progressive
checks).



If you feel like tackling the task, game tutorials are your best bets, since
all collision and volume detection systems in games need to be real-time you
can find some pretty good examples of blazing fast code.



If all you need is checking for centers inside a bounding box volume then
it’s pretty fast to write.

All you need to do is get the bbox for that volume and check center
coordinates against deltas of the box’ corners.

anything more complex, like checking for actual objects and not just their
centers or using actual shape volumes, requires expensive custom code.



If anybody can correct me and prove me wrong about the toughness of the task
I’d love it, since it’s now a long time I struggle with this kind of issues.

~Raffaele Fragapane
~Freelance Technical Animator & TD
~Senior TA @ Peerless Camera

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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Harry Bardak
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:58 AM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: [scripting] Volume selection ?



hi everyone.



Well i would like to script something like this :

When i select a box, every object in this box is select.



So in other word how can i detect if an object is inside another one.
Wich way should i follow to do that ?



thanks by advance.



harry.


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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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sure others want them as well) but they are not an easy implementation.<o:p></o
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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tutorials are your best bets, since all collision and volume detection systems
in games need to be real-time you can find some pretty good examples of blazing
fast code.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All you need to do is get the bbox for
that volume and check center coordinates against deltas of the box&#8217;
corners.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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~Freelance Technical Animator &amp; TD<br>
~Senior TA @ Peerless Camera</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Well i would like to script
something like this : </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When i select a box, every object in
this box is select. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So in other word how can i detect if
an object is inside another one. <br>
Wich way should i follow to do that ? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>thanks by advance. </span></font><o
:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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