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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Dan Yargici
Sent: 10 June 2004 18:03
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: Satellite rendering debugging?
OK, I got the syntax now, but I'm getting an access denied. Like I said,
could it be a win2k -> XP thing? I VNC'd into the render nodes and their
Telnet service is disabled. I tried enabling and starting one anyway, but
still the same 'Access Denied' response from telnet.
[kim aldis]
shouldn't matter about the telnet server, the satellite service is is the
server you're connecting to, not telnet. Access denied? Firewall (probably
not) security policies? Under what user is the satelite service running, if
it's the default system account then this could account for the permission
denied, if not, check the user account under which the service is running,
see if it has permission to access the network. If in doubt, give it the
administrator account (temporarily), see if that works.
On a side note - would it be possible to setup a rayhosts manager inside
NetView? Like an on/off switch, or a load of checkboxes for different
machines... Although I guess you'd still have to restart XSI to see the
changes... hmmmm.....
DAN
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Bruce <mailto:brucep@(protected)> Priebe
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: Satellite rendering debugging?
You shouldn't have to change the Satellite Service. It should run fine as
the local System.
As for telneting to the satellite port how are you doing it? The format
mentioned by Dan is incorrect.
telnet <hostname> <port number> is the way it is done.
<hostname>:<port number> is for the .ray3host file, not telnet from the
command prompt.
When telneting to a machine that has the satellite service running, you
should connect, but you shouldn't get a response back.
Bruce Priebe
Softimage/Avid
Softimage|XSI Technical Support
& Jaunty Young Brainiac
brucep@(protected)
http://www.softimage.com/Support/XSI
Have you used the Knowledgebase today?
-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]On Behalf Of
Sandy Sutherland
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:51 AM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: Satellite rendering debugging?
OK - just did some testing, and found that the satellite services were not
running - they need to have login setups, using the same login as your XSI
()runnable and working) installations are - you can set this up using the
services manager under control panels - administrative tools!
Make sense???
Cheers
S.
-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----
Sandy Sutherland Digital Doodeller/Technical Director
The Refinery (Cape) http://www.refinery.co.za
mailto:sandy@(protected)
(P) (+27 21) 480 3132 (F) (+27 21) 480 3101
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-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Dan <mailto:dan@(protected)> Yargici
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Satellite rendering debugging?
Cheers for the help Sandy,
OK the way I have our system setup is this:
2 Workstations Win2k XSI4 Adv.
10 Renderboxes WinXP - Waiting for their lics, but I'm assuming the
satellite tokens are taken from the Adv. lics. so for this test they don't
need their own lics.
All machines share one setenv.bat file on the server to make administration
a little easier for certain things (Moving the license server for example).
In this Setenv.bat the .ray3hosts location is set to c:\Softimage and any
other instances of ray*hosts files on all machines have been removed. In
fact I think my machine is the only one with a .ray3hosts file out of all of
them. In the .ray3hosts file I've declared all the slaves as IP adresses
(to be safe) followed by :7007 the default port for satellite rendering.
Now. When I type Telnet 192.0.0.42:7007 (correct syntax for a port? it
doesn't throw any errors..) for example I get:
Could not open a connection to host on port 23 : Connect failed
I think this might be some kind of Win2k -> WinXP telnet issue, mind. The
machines can definately see each other...
Anyways, still no sooooper fast distributed fun and games.... :(
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Sandy <mailto:sandy@(protected)> Sutherland
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Satellite rendering debugging?
Well as long as your 'other' machines can run XSI i.e. get licenses, then
setup a rayhost file WITH port numbers - these you can get from your
services file, or write them down when you install XSI on each machine -
once you have done this, try and telnet into each machine using these port
numbers - if telnet gives you errors, then you have the wrong port number,
if it just dissapears, as with me - then bingo, you are onto a good start!
Run XSI and start a render with verbose on, you should see the other
machines returning percentage renders!!!
S.
-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----
Sandy Sutherland Digital Doodeller/Technical Director
The Refinery (Cape) http://www.refinery.co.za
mailto:sandy@(protected)
(P) (+27 21) 480 3132 (F) (+27 21) 480 3101
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-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Dan <mailto:dan@(protected)> Yargici
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Satellite rendering debugging?
Anyone here got their satellite rendering working? I'm not a total newbie
to this, and I managed to get distributed rendering working in earlier
versions, but I'm having no luck today....
Anything I should be aware of before I delve deeper?
As we have no standalone MR lics it's hard to diagnose without being able to
run ray3 -v to check the status of the slaves.... I noticed the Raysat.exe
executable but after sifting through the -h output there appears to be no
diagnostic switches to try... -v just returns MentalRay copyright info....
:-/
Thanks,
DAN
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dan
Yargici<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 June 2004 18:03<BR><B>To:</B>
XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Satellite rendering
debugging?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>OK, I got the syntax now, but I'm getting
an access denied. Like I said, could it be a win2k -> XP thing? 
;
I VNC'd into the render nodes and their Telnet service is disabled. I
tried enabling and starting one anyway, but still the same 'Access Denied'
response from telnet.<BR><SPAN class=171083017-10062004><FONT
color=#008080>[kim aldis] </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=171083017-10062004>shouldn't
matter about the telnet server, the satellite service is is the server you're
connecting to, not telnet. Access denied? Firewall (probably not) security
policies? Under what user is the satelite service running, if it's the
default
system account then this could account for the permission denied, if
not, check the user account under which the service is running, see if it has
permission to access the network. If in doubt, give it the administrator
account (temporarily), see if that works.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=171083017-10062004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>On a side note - would it be possible to
setup a rayhosts manager inside NetView? Like an on/off switch, or a
load of checkboxes for different machines... Although I guess you'd still
have
to restart XSI to see the changes... hmmmm.....<SPAN
class=171083017-10062004><FONT
color=#008080> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DAN</FONT></DIV>
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/B>
<A title=brucep@(protected) href="mailto:brucep@(protected)">Bruce
Priebe</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Satellite rendering
debugging?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma color=#0000ff>You
shouldn't have to change the Satellite Service. It should run fine as the
local System.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma color=#0000ff>As for
telneting to the satellite port how are you doing it? The format mentioned
by Dan is incorrect.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma color=#0000ff>telnet
<hostname> <port number> is the way it is done.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#0000ff><hostname>:<port number> is for the .ray3host
file, not telnet from the command prompt.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770134916-10062004><FONT face=Tahoma color=#0000ff>When
telneting to a machine that has the satellite service running, you should
connect, but you shouldn't get a response back.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#800080>Bruce Priebe</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800080>Softimage/</FONT><FONT face="MS Serif"
color=#000080>Avid</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#800080>Softimage|XSI Technical Support</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#800080>& Jaunty Young Brainiac</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#800080>brucep@(protected)</FONT>
<BR><U><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.softimage.com/Support/XSI"
target=_blank>http://www.softimage.com/Support/XSI</A></FONT></U>
<BR><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#800080>Have you used the
Knowledgebase today?</FONT></B> </P>
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size=2>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Sandy
Sutherland<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Satellite rendering
debugging?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK - just did some testing, and found that
the satellite services were not running - they need to have login
setups, using the same login as your XSI ()runnable and working)
installations are - you can set this up using the services manager under
control panels - administrative tools!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Make sense???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----<BR>Sandy
Sutherland Digital Doodeller/Technical Director<BR>The Refinery
(Cape) <A
href="http://www.refinery.co.za">http://www.refinery.co.za</A><BR><A
href="mailto:sandy@(protected)">mailto:sandy@(protected)</A><BR>(P)
(+27 21) 480 3132 (F) (+27 21) 480
3101<BR>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B
>From:</B>
<A title=dan@(protected) href="mailto:dan@(protected)">Dan
Yargici</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Satellite rendering
debugging?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers for the help Sandy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK the way I have our system setup is
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2 Workstations Win2k XSI4
Adv.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>10 Renderboxes WinXP - Waiting for their
lics, but I'm assuming the satellite tokens are taken from the Adv
.
lics. so for this test they don't need their own lics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All machines share one setenv.bat
file
on the server to make administration a little easier for certain things
(Moving the license server for example). In this Setenv.bat the
.ray3hosts location is set to c:\Softimage and any other instances of
ray*hosts files on all machines have been removed. In fact I
think my machine is the only one with a .ray3hosts file out of all of
them. In the .ray3hosts file I've declared all the slaves
as IP adresses (to be safe) followed by :7007 the default port for
satellite rendering. Now. When I type Telnet 192.0.0.42
:7007
(correct syntax for a port? it doesn't throw any errors..)
for example I get:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Could not open a connection
to host on port 23 : Connect failed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think this might be some kind of Win2k
-> WinXP telnet issue, mind. The machines can definately see
each other...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyways, still no sooooper fast
distributed
fun and games.... :(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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>From:</B>
<A title=sandy@(protected) href="mailto:sandy@(protected)"
>Sandy
Sutherland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2004
3:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Satellite rendering
debugging?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well as long as your 'other' machines
can
run XSI i.e. get licenses, then setup a rayhost file WITH port
numbers
- these you can get from your services file, or write them down when
you install XSI on each machine - once you have done this, try and
telnet into each machine using these port numbers - if telnet gives
you errors, then you have the wrong port number, if it just
dissapears, as with me - then bingo, you are onto a good start!
Run XSI and start a render with verbose on, you should see the other
machines returning percentage renders!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----<BR
>Sandy
Sutherland Digital Doodeller/Technical Director<BR>The Refinery
(Cape) <A
href="http://www.refinery.co.za">http://www.refinery.co.za</A><BR><A
href="mailto:sandy@(protected)">mailto:sandy@(protected)</A><BR
>(P)
(+27 21) 480 3132 (F) (+27 21) 480
3101<BR>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----<
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B
>From:</B>
<A title=dan@(protected) href="mailto:dan@(protected)">Dan
Yargici</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2004
1:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Satellite rendering
debugging?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone here got their satellite
rendering working? I'm not a total newbie to this, and I
managed to get distributed rendering working in earlier versions,
but I'm having no luck today....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anything I should be aware of before I
delve deeper?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As we have no standalone MR lics it's
hard to diagnose without being able to run ray3 -v to check the
status of the slaves.... I noticed the Raysat.exe executable but
after sifting through the -h output there appears to be no
diagnostic switches to try... -v just returns MentalRay copyright
info.... :-/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DAN</FONT></DIV>
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