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Particles sharing the same ID

Particles sharing the same ID

2004-06-09       - By kim aldis

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mind you, wouldn't be too difficult to bump the id on reuse, would it.


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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
kim aldis
Sent: 09 June 2004 18:03
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: Particles sharing the same ID


It's a memory optimisation thing, I would think. Think about how much memory
you could save if your'e emitting a lot of particles with short life spans
over a period. Could turn out to be quite a  lot.


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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Vince Fortin
Sent: 09 June 2004 18:00
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID



"When the playback head reached frame 10 another particle with ID 8 was
emitted"
Pretty much the same problem, baaaad particles...

-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Robert  <mailto:robertm@(protected)> Moodie
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID

I've seen it with Initial States

I'll try to explain:

Particle with ID 8 was emitted at frame 10
Initial state was set at frame 10 so particle ID 8 is now present at frame 1

When the playback head reached frame 10 another particle with ID 8 was
emitted

The docs say that particle IDs are unique and it's only indices that are
recycled, however that wasn't the case.

I'm afraid I can't help with emission events

_rob




-- -- Original Message -- --
From: kim aldis <mailto:kim@(protected)>  
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Particles sharing the same ID

Jordi, didn't you have something like this a while back, something about
particles being re-used in emission events?


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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Vince Fortin
Sent: 09 June 2004 16:35
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID


I spoke to fast! Have a look at this:

'INFO : Particle_ID 0 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 1 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 3 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 3 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 5 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 6 belongs to pType 0

'INFO : Particle_ID 6 belongs to pType 0

Lines in red are actually 4 different particles... not good at all !

vincent



-- -- Original Message -- --
From: "Vince Fortin" < <mailto:vfortin3d@(protected)> vfortin3d@(protected)>
To: < <mailto:XSI@(protected)> XSI@(protected)>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID


> Way to go, they do obviously :)
>
> Thanks Felix
>
> vincent
>
> -- -- Original Message -- --
> From: "Felix Gebhardt" < <mailto:gebhardt@(protected)>
gebhardt@(protected)>
> To: < <mailto:XSI@(protected)> XSI@(protected)>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID
>
>
> >
> > Do a quick check if they differ by TypeID. If not there might be
something
> > wrong.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Felix
> >
> >
> > Vince Fortin wrote:
> > > Is there a particular reason why two particles get to share the same
ID
> > > with an Emit pEvent?
> > > This also happens within the same pType, wich makes it pretty weird to
> > > manage.
> > > The doc suggests to work with indices instead for speed reasons but
they
> > > are re-injected into the simulation.
> > > Wouldn't it be logic if we could fully rely on IDs with pEvent?
> > > Any way to force the attribution of a specific ID? Any workaround?
> > > Thanks!
> > > vincent
> >
> > ---
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class=468372017-09062004>mind you, wouldn't be too difficult to bump the id on
reuse, would it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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 <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
 [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>kim aldis<BR><B>Sent:</B
>
 09 June 2004 18:03<BR><B>To:</B> XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
 Particles sharing the same ID<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
 <DIV></DIV>
 <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#008080 size=2><SPAN
 class=156430117-09062004>It's a memory optimisation thing, I would think.
 Think about how much memory you could save if your'e emitting a lot of
 particles with short life spans over a period. Could turn out to be quite
 a&nbsp; lot.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
 <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
 style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #008080 2px solid;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
   <HR tabIndex=-1>
   <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
   [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Vince
   Fortin<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 June 2004 18:00<BR><B>To:</B>
   XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Particles sharing the same
   ID<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
   <DIV></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"When the playback head reached frame 10
   another particle with ID 8 was emitted"</EM></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV>Pretty much the same problem, baaaad particles...</DIV></FONT></DIV>
   <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
   style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT
: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">-- -- Original Message -- -- </DIV>
     <DIV
     style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:
</B>
     <A title=robertm@(protected) href="mailto:robertm@(protected)">Robert
     Moodie</A> </DIV>
     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
     href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:23
     PM</DIV>
     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Particles sharing the
     same ID</DIV>
     <DIV><BR></DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've seen it with Initial States</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll try to explain:</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Particle with ID 8 was emitted at frame
     10</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Initial state was set at frame 10 so
particle
     ID 8 is now present at frame 1</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When the playback head reached frame 10
     another particle with ID 8 was emitted</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The docs say that particle IDs are unique
and
     it's only indices that are recycled, however that wasn't the
     case.</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm afraid I can't help with emission
     events</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>_rob</FONT></DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
     <BLOCKQUOTE
     style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER
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       <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">-- -- Original Message -- -- </DIV>
       <DIV
       style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B
>From:</B>
       <A title=kim@(protected) href="mailto:kim@(protected)">kim aldis</A>
       </DIV>
       <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
       href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV>
       <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 09, 2004
       11:58 AM</DIV>
       <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Particles sharing the
       same ID</DIV>
       <DIV><BR></DIV>
       <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375315715-09062004><FONT face=Arial
       color=#008080 size=2>Jordi, didn't you have something like this a while
       back, something about particles being re-used in emission
       events?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
       <BLOCKQUOTE
       style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #008080 2px
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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         <HR tabIndex=-1>
         <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
         href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)">owner-xsi@(protected)</A> [<A
         href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)">mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)<
/A>]
         <B>On Behalf Of </B>Vince Fortin<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 June 2004
         16:35<BR><B>To:</B> <A
         href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A><BR><B>Subject:<
/B>
         Re: Particles sharing the same ID<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
         <DIV></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I spoke to fast! Have a look at
         this:</FONT></DIV>
         <DIV>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#008000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID&nbsp;0
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#008000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 1
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#800000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 3
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#800000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 3
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#008000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 5
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#800000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 6
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Courier color=#800000 size=2>'INFO : Particle_ID 6
         belongs to pType 0</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lines in red are actually 4 different
         particles</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>... not good at all
         !</FONT></P>
         <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>vincent</FONT></P></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- -- Original Message -- -- </FONT>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Vince Fortin" &lt;</FONT><A
         href="mailto:vfortin3d@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>vfortin3d@(protected)</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: &lt;</FONT><A
         href="mailto:XSI@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>XSI@(protected)</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:13
         PM</FONT></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same
         ID</FONT></DIV></DIV>
         <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
         face=Arial size=2>&gt; Way to go, they do obviously :)<BR>&gt;
         <BR>&gt; Thanks Felix<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; vincent<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -- --
         Original Message -- --<BR>&gt; From: "Felix Gebhardt" &lt;</FONT><A
         href="mailto:gebhardt@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>gebhardt@(protected)</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;</FONT><A
         href="mailto:XSI@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>XSI@(protected)</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
         size=2>&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:01 PM<BR>&gt;
         Subject: Re: Particles sharing the same ID<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
         &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Do a quick check if they differ by TypeID. If not
         there might be something<BR>&gt; &gt; wrong.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt
;
         Cheers,<BR>&gt; &gt; Felix<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;
         Vince Fortin wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Is there a particular reason
why
         two particles get to share the same ID<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; with an Emit
         pEvent?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; This also happens within the same pType,
         wich makes it pretty weird to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; manage.<BR>&gt; &gt;
         &gt; The doc suggests to work with indices instead for speed reasons
         but they<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; are re-injected into the
         simulation.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Wouldn't it be logic if we could fully
         rely on IDs with pEvent?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Any way to force the
         attribution of a specific ID? Any workaround?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
         Thanks!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; vincent<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;
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