  | | | vehicle rigs? | vehicle rigs? 2004-05-25 - By Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Back Hmmm Mainframe had vehicle rigs for "Weirdos" tv serie I know it was done in Softimage but it's obviously translatable in XSI. Anyone worked on those rigs on the list?
cheers, m-A
-- -- Original Message -- -- From: Dale Newton To: XSI@(protected) Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:14 AM Subject: vehicle rigs?
A further question on the subject of the wheel turning expression:
I have been experimenting with a vehicle rig which responds realistically to the terrain it's on (a surface with points pulled) and to it's motion (percentage along a path surface deformed to the above surface). The spring operator gives me great results with a rig with four wheel suspension for bumps , stops etc. So happiness there.
My headache starts when I want to either turn a corner, or make the terrain too bumpy. The wheels go out of alignment (as of course, the lengths of the paths change). And here I stop - can't figure how to correct this.
I know I'm probably down the wrong path altogether J, and there is one that requires a little more scripting. Anyone got any ideas?
Dale
-- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]On Behalf Of alex dinnin Sent: 25 May 2004 14:52 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: RE: expressions question
Thanks everyone for your help !!!
Got it working a treat now !!!
Alex
Graham D Clark <mail@(protected)> wrote:
use getBBox to get the geometries min max values as diameter then use that value as diameter in the line where you apply your expression,
or if you need the radius to animate over time (and the object has been frozen or has no radius parmeter) then afaik you'll need to make a scop for it.
it gets a little trickier if you want to 'steer' your wheel too and have it roate correclty in any direction but animating the wheels on paths and using path percentage value to rotate can make that math a lot easier
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-- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of alex dinnin Sent: May 25, 2004 12:40 PM To: XSI@(protected) Subject: Re: expressions question
Am I correct in saying then, that if you have frozen the object !!! you can not use the radius ???
thanks for the help on this everyone....
Peter Twardo <peliosis_v2@(protected)> wrote:
Well, since the amount of rotation, depends on both : translation, and radius of an object, your expression could't work.
I hope this helps:
(Try changing radius of your cylinder or whatever if you havent frozen it)
' ******************************************
CreatePrim "Cylinder", "MeshSurface"
Rotate , 90, 0, 0, siAbsolute, siParent, siObj, siX
ResetTransform "cylinder", siCtr, siRot, siXYZ
InspectObj "cylinder.kine.local"
AddExpr "cylinder.kine.local.rotz"
SetExpr "cylinder.kine.local.rotz", "cylinder.kine.local.posx*-(360/(2*PI *cylinder.polymsh.geom.cylinder.radius))"
' ******************************
Peter
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The spring operator gives me great results with a rig with four wheel suspension for bumps, stops etc. So happiness there.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">My headache starts when I want to either turn a corner, or make the terrain too bumpy. The wheels go out of alignment (as of course, the lengths of the paths change). And here I stop cant figure how to correct this.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I know Im probably down the wrong path altogether </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J</SPAN>< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">, and there is one that requires a little more scripting. Anyone got any ideas?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Dale <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><SUB><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SUB></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>alex dinnin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 25 May 2004 14:52<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> XSI@(protected)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: expressions question</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Thanks everyone for your help !!! </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Got it working a treat now !!!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Alex<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Graham D Clark <mail@(protected)></SPAN></I></B> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">use getBBox to get the geometries min max values as diameter then use that value as diameter in the line where you apply your expression,</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">or if you need the radius to animate over time (and the object has been frozen or has no radius parmeter) then afaik you'll need to make a scop for it.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">it gets a little trickier if you want to 'steer' your wheel too and have it roate correclty in any direction but animating the wheels on paths and using path percentage value to rotate can make that math a lot easier</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -- <BR><A href="http://www.grahamdclark.com/">http://www.grahamdclark.com</A> <BR>2nd hand TD </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING -TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 43 .5pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER -BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>alex dinnin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> May 25, 2004 12:40 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> XSI@(protected)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: expressions question</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><o :p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 43.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Am I correct in saying then, that if you have frozen the object !!! you can not use the radius ???</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 43.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 43.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">thanks for the help on this everyone....<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Peter Twardo <peliosis_v2@(protected)></SPAN></I></B> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well, since the amount of rotation, depends on both : translation, and radius of an object, your expression could't work.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope this helps:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(Try changing radius of your cylinder or whatever if you havent frozen it)</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">' ******************************************</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">CreatePrim "Cylinder", "MeshSurface"</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Rotate , 90, 0, 0, siAbsolute, siParent , siObj, siX</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">ResetTransform "cylinder", siCtr, siRot , siXYZ</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">InspectObj "cylinder.kine.local"</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">AddExpr "cylinder.kine.local.rotz"</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">SetExpr "cylinder.kine.local.rotz", "<STRONG><B>cylinder.kine.local.posx*-(360/(2*PI*cylinder.polymsh.geom .cylinder.radius))</B></STRONG>"</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">' ******************************</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 72pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p>< /SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none ; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 47.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; 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