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Nick, thanks so much. I wanted to use the old shaders and that did the
trick. -Larry
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Nick
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:23 PM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: Particle transparency and Reflection
You can get transparency, reflection and refraction with the new particles
by plugging in raytracing nodes in the colour input in the tree, they just
take ages to render... I just hope you don't have too many particles to
render...
To use the old particle shaders you mentioned, "simply" delete the shaders
from your ptype so it inherits the shaders attached to the cloud itself (the
only place where you can attach a volume shader for particles). Now, in the
clouds' rendertree attach the appropriate particle shaders you want. Save
your scene. (can't remember if an actual XSI restart is needed at this
point) Open your scene. Draw a region and your particles are now there,
rendering away with ye old shaders... it's a convoluted way of getting the
old shaders to work as they do come in real handy some times, but I think
it's got something to do with the way generates the particle files which
contain some info regarding... and then I'm lost... lucky for those bread
crumbs I thought I had left behind...
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Scott Lange <mailto:scott@(protected)>
To: XSI <mailto:XSI@(protected)>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:57 AM
Subject: Particle transparency and Reflection
Hi, I am currently working on a job with the XSI particles in version3.5 and
found myself caught with this nasty rendering issue. I am having trouble
rendering the fluid particles to be transparent and reflective. The default
shaders for the particle cloud and the particle type doesn't have any
transparency or reflection parameters. Now, I've looked into the old "tap
water" scene from the XSInetview under the library->simulation section, and
tried the "water fall" simulation tutorial at XSIBase. It seems to me that,
at least in the old version of XSI (2.x), I can assign a new particle shader
like particle blob or particle_fluidv2 to the particles. Those shaders have
access to transparency and reflection properties. I've tried to hook those
shaders and their respective volume shader into the appropriate cloud
material node in the render tree. The results did not show up in the render.
So I am asking if anyone have had success and know how to render transparent
liquid with the XSI3.5 fluid particles or know any alternatives. Thanks in
advance.
Larry
Larry Leung
Animator
Turbulence Effects Inc.
38 East 32nd Street
6th Floor
NY, NY 10016
scott@(protected)
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class=109331318-11052004>Nick, thanks so much. I wanted to use the old shaders
and that did the trick. -Larry</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nick<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Particle transparency and
Reflection<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can get transparency, reflection and
refraction with the new particles by plugging in raytracing nodes in the colour
input in the tree, they just take ages to render... I just hope you don't have
too many particles to render... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To use the old particle shaders you mentioned,
"simply" delete the shaders from your ptype so it inherits the shaders attached
to the cloud itself (the only place where you can attach a volume shader for
particles). Now, in the clouds' rendertree attach the appropriate particle
shaders you want. Save your scene. (can't remember if an actual XSI restart is
needed at this point) Open your scene. Draw a region and your particles are now
there, rendering away with ye old shaders... it's a convoluted way of getting
the old shaders to work as they do come in real handy some times, but I think
it's got something to do with the way generates the particle files which
contain
some info regarding... and then I'm lost... lucky for those bread crumbs I
thought I had left behind...</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, I am currently working on a job with the XSI
particles in version3.5 and found myself caught with this nasty rendering
issue. I am having trouble rendering the fluid particles to be transparent
and
reflective. The default shaders for the particle cloud and the particle type
doesn't have any transparency or reflection parameters. Now, I've looked into
the old "tap water" scene from the XSInetview under the library->
;simulation
section, and tried the "water fall" simulation tutorial at XSIBase. It seems
to me that, at least in the old version of XSI (2.x), I can assign a new
particle shader like particle blob or particle_fluidv2 to the particles.
Those
shaders have access to transparency and reflection properties. I've tried to
hook those shaders and their respective volume shader into the appropriate
cloud material node in the render tree. The results did not show up in the
render. So I am asking if anyone have had success and know how to render
transparent liquid with the XSI3.5 fluid particles or know any alternatives.
Thanks in advance.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">
</FONT><BR><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Larry Leung</FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Animator</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Turbulence Effects Inc.</FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>38 East
32<SUP>nd</SUP> Street</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>6<SUP>th</SUP> Floor</FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>NY, NY
10016</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>scott@(protected)</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">
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