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Animation Ghosting

Animation Ghosting

2004-04-23       - By Guy Rabiller

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You can Ghost Particles too :-]
--
guy rabiller | 3d technical director @ LaMaison


 -- -- Original Message -- --
 From: Bradley Gabe
 To: XSI@(protected)
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Animation Ghosting


 Ghosting in XSI 4.0 is very powerful and incredibly versatile. It's both a
camera option and a per object option.

 Camera Settings:
 - You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they display per camera.
 - Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors, trail length,
and fading effects.
 - Each camera can have a unique setting for whether to show per frame
ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or both.

 Per Object Settings:
 - Ghosting per object is treated as a visibility property, alongside view and
render visibility.
 - Each object's ghost can have a unique graphical representation:
     -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry)
     -Point (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info)
     -Pose (Ghosts the object's center)
     -Velocity (Ghosts a vector representation of the change in velocity over
time. This one is incredibly powerful for checking animation smoothness!)
     -Trail (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling on)

 There are so many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a very core
level, so a lot of really cool tricks are out there just waiting to be
discovered.

 As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that you could turn on
ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body Dynamics. Depending
on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects involved, you can use
ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the simulation will turn out! Here's
an example of what you can do with this:

 Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the various RBD
properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and friction parameters
and see the sim path of your object update the size of its bounces!

 You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in real time in
order to adjust the results of the simulations.

 No more tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball makes it
through the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your sliders until the
ghost shows the ball going where you want it to.

 -Brad


   That's fantastic, cheers for the info, it certainly a feature that many of
our students (especially from a traditional animation background) have been
crying out for!  Does it work as a script, an animation mixer option or an
operator on the characters mesh?



   Saf Efstathiou

   NCCA Demonstrator

   sefstathiou@(protected)

   www.onionboy.co.uk

   -- --Original Message-- --
   From: Robert Moodie [mailto:robertm@(protected)]
   Sent: 23 April 2004 16:52
   To: XSI@(protected)
   Subject: Re: Animation Ghosting



   Yes, and it is tight!



   I went through it with 1 of our animators and there was nothing that he
wanted to see that wasn't there - including IK/FK ghosting



   There was a great trick discovered by someone on the beta programme were
animation ghosting allowed you to see the ghosting for a rigid body simulation
:-)







     -- -- Original Message -- --

     From: Sofronis Efstathiou

     To: XSI@(protected)

     Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:56 AM

     Subject: Animation Ghosting





     Hello,



     Can anyone verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in XSI 4?  

     If not, can anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a
character, who's meshes have been enveloped to a rig.



     Cheers!!!

     Saf Efstathiou

     NCCA Demonstrator



     Saf Efstathiou

     NCCA Demonstrator

     sefstathiou@(protected)

     www.onionboy.co.uk





--
Bradley R. Gabe
Industrial Light & Magic

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can Ghost Particles too :-]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>--<BR>guy rabiller | 3d technical director @ LaMaison</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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 <DIV
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 <A title=bgabe@(protected) href="mailto:bgabe@(protected)">Bradley Gabe</A> </DIV>
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 <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 23, 2004 9:19
PM</DIV>
 <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Animation Ghosting</DIV>
 <DIV><BR></DIV>Ghosting in XSI 4.0 is very powerful and incredibly versatile.
 It's both a camera option and a per object option.<BR><BR>Camera
 Settings:<BR>- You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they
display
 per camera. <BR>- Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors,
 trail length, and fading effects.<BR>- Each camera can have a unique setting
 for whether to show per frame ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or
 both.<BR><BR>Per Object Settings:<BR>- Ghosting per object is treated as a
 visibility property, alongside view and render visibility.<BR>- Each object's
 ghost can have a unique graphical representation:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Point
 (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Pose
 (Ghosts the object's center)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Velocity (Ghosts a vector
 representation of the change in velocity over time. This one is incredibly
 powerful for checking animation smoothness!)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Trail
 (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling on)<BR><BR>There are so
 many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a very core level, so a
 lot of really cool tricks are out there just waiting to be
 discovered.<BR><BR>As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that
you
 could turn on ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body
 Dynamics. Depending on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects
 involved, you can use ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the
 simulation will turn out! Here's an example of what you can do with
 this:<BR><BR>Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the
 various RBD properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and
friction
 parameters and see the sim path of your object update the size of its
 bounces!<BR><BR>You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in
 real time in order to adjust the results of the simulations.<BR><BR>No more
 tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball makes it through
 the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your sliders until the ghost
 shows the ball going where you want it to.<BR><BR>-Brad<BR><BR>
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   <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That's fantastic,
   cheers for the info, it certainly a feature that many of our students
   (especially from a traditional animation background) have been crying out
   for!<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>Does it work as a script, an animation mixer option
   or an operator on the characters mesh?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <DIV>
   <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=3><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Saf
   Efstathiou</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
   style="COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=3><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NCCA
   Demonstrator</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
   style="COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Arial Black" color=blue size=3><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"><A
   href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
   style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sefstathiou@(protected)</SPAN></FONT></A><
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   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: green; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"><A
   href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
   style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.onionboy.co.uk</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN><
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   lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-- --Original
   Message-- --<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Robert
   Moodie [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
   href="mailto:robertm@(protected)">mailto:robertm@(protected)</A><SPAN
   class=GramE>] <BR><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent</SPAN></B></SPAN><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><ST1:DATE year="2004"
   day="23" month="4"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">23 April
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   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">16:52</SPAN></FONT></ST1:TIME>
<FONT
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   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
   href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A><BR><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Animation
   Ghosting</SPAN></FONT></P>
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   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, and it is
   tight!</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I went through it with 1 of our
   animators and there was nothing that he wanted to see that wasn't there -
   including IK/FK ghosting</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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   <DIV>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There was a great trick
   discovered by someone on the beta programme were animation ghosting allowed
   you to see the ghosting for a rigid body simulation
   :-)</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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     title=sefstathiou@(protected)
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     style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P><
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     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can
     anyone verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in XSI
     4?<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If
     not, can anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a character,
     who's meshes have been enveloped to a rig.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=2><SPAN
     style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P><
/SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=2><SPAN
     style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers!!!</SPAN>
</FONT><FONT
     color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Saf
     Efstathiou</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
     style="COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
     size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"
>NCCA
     Demonstrator</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
     size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial
     size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Saf
     Efstathiou</SPAN></FONT><SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial
     size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NCCA
     Demonstrator</SPAN></FONT><SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Arial Black"
     color=blue size=3><SPAN
     style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"><A
     href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
     style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sefstathiou@(protected)</SPAN></FONT></A
></SPAN></FONT><FONT
     face=Arial color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
     </SPAN></FONT><SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
     <P class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Arial Black"
     color=green size=3><SPAN
     style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: green; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"><A
     href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
     style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.onionboy.co.uk</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN><
/FONT><FONT
     face=Tahoma color=green><SPAN style="COLOR: green; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
     </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
     <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
     size=3><SPAN
   style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><
/BLOCKQUOTE><BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">--
Bradley R. Gabe
Industrial Light &amp; Magic
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