  | | | Animation Ghosting | Animation Ghosting 2004-04-23 - By Bradley Gabe
Back Ghosting in XSI 4.0 is very powerful and incredibly versatile. It's both a camera option and a per object option.
Camera Settings: - You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they display per camera. - Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors, trail length, and fading effects. - Each camera can have a unique setting for whether to show per frame ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or both.
Per Object Settings: - Ghosting per object is treated as a visibility property, alongside view and render visibility. - Each object's ghost can have a unique graphical representation: -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry) -Point (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info) -Pose (Ghosts the object's center) -Velocity (Ghosts a vector representation of the change in velocity over time. This one is incredibly powerful for checking animation smoothness!) -Trail (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling on)
There are so many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a very core level, so a lot of really cool tricks are out there just waiting to be discovered.
As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that you could turn on ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body Dynamics. Depending on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects involved, you can use ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the simulation will turn out! Here's an example of what you can do with this:
Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the various RBD properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and friction parameters and see the sim path of your object update the size of its bounces!
You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in real time in order to adjust the results of the simulations.
No more tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball makes it through the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your sliders until the ghost shows the ball going where you want it to.
-Brad
> That's fantastic, cheers for the info, it certainly a feature that > many of our students (especially from a traditional animation > background) have been crying out for! Does it work as a script, an > animation mixer option or an operator on the characters mesh? > > > > Saf Efstathiou > > NCCA Demonstrator > > sefstathiou@(protected) <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)> > > www.onionboy.co.uk <http://www.onionboy.co.uk> > > -- --Original Message-- -- > *From:* Robert Moodie [mailto:robertm@(protected)] > *Sent**:* 23 April 2004 16:52 > *To:* XSI@(protected) > *Subject:* Re: Animation Ghosting > > > > Yes, and it is tight! > > > > I went through it with 1 of our animators and there was nothing that > he wanted to see that wasn't there - including IK/FK ghosting > > > > There was a great trick discovered by someone on the beta programme > were animation ghosting allowed you to see the ghosting for a rigid > body simulation :-) > > > > > > > > -- -- Original Message -- -- > > *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)> > > *To:* XSI@(protected) <mailto:XSI@(protected)> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2004 10:56 AM > > *Subject:* Animation Ghosting > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in > XSI 4? > > If not, can anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a > character, who's meshes have been enveloped to a rig. > > > > Cheers!!! > > Saf Efstathiou > > NCCA Demonstrator > > > > Saf Efstathiou > > NCCA Demonstrator > > sefstathiou@(protected) <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)> > > www.onionboy.co.uk <http://www.onionboy.co.uk> > > >
-- Bradley R. Gabe Industrial Light & Magic
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It's both a camera option and a per object option.<br> <br> Camera Settings:<br> - You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they display per camera. <br> - Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors, trail length, and fading effects.<br> - Each camera can have a unique setting for whether to show per frame ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or both.<br> <br> Per Object Settings:<br> - Ghosting per object is treated as a visibility property, alongside view and render visibility.<br> - Each object's ghost can have a unique graphical representation:<br> -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry)<br> -Point (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info)<br> -Pose (Ghosts the object's center)<br> -Velocity (Ghosts a vector representation of the change in velocity over time. This one is incredibly powerful for checking animation smoothness!)<br> -Trail (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling on)<br> <br> There are so many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a very core level, so a lot of really cool tricks are out there just waiting to be discovered.<br> <br> As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that you could turn on ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body Dynamics. Depending on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects involved, you can use ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the simulation will turn out! Here's an example of what you can do with this:<br> <br> Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the various RBD properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and friction parameters and see the sim path of your object update the size of its bounces!<br> <br> You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in real time in order to adjust the results of the simulations.<br> <br> No more tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball makes it through the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your sliders until the ghost shows the ball going where you want it to.<br> <br> -Brad<br> <br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid4C40C6148BACD711AEF800805F8B335E08607267@(protected)"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel="File-List" href="cid:filelist.xml@(protected)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"> <o :SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @(protected) {font-family:Tahoma; 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color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Saf Efstathiou</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o :p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">NCCA Demonstrator</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p>< /o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial Black"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black"; color: blue;"><a href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">sefstathiou@(protected)</span></font></a>< /span></font><font color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: blue;"> </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="green" face="Arial Black"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black"; color: green;"><a href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">www.onionboy.co.uk</span></font></a></span></font> <font color="green" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: green;"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-- --Original Message-- --<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Robert Moodie [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:robertm@(protected)">mailto :robertm@(protected)</a><span class="GramE">] <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent</span></b></span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date month="4" day="23" year="2004"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">23 April 2004</span></font></st1:date><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font><st1 :time hour="16" minute="52"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">16:52</span></font></st1:time> <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link -abbreviated" href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Animation Ghosting</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span> </font></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Yes, and it is tight!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I went through it with 1 of our animators and there was nothing that he wanted to see that wasn't there - including IK/FK ghosting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">There was a great trick discovered by someone on the beta programme were animation ghosting allowed you to see the ghosting for a rigid body simulation :-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-- -- Original Message -- -- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div style=""> <p class="MsoNormal" style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; margin-left: 36pt ; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; -moz -background-origin: initial;"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">From:</span>< /font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)" title="sefstathiou@(protected)">Sofronis Efstathiou</a> <o:p></o:p>< /span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">To:</span>< /font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:XSI@(protected)" title="XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</a > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span>< /font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><st1:date month="4" day="23" year="2004"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Friday, April 23, 2004</span>< /font></st1:date><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><st1:time hour="10" minute="56"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">10:56 AM</span></font></st1:time> <font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span ></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Animation Ghosting<o:p></o:p>< /span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span> </font></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o :p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hello,<o:p></o:p>< /span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p>< /span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Can anyone verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in XSI 4?<span style=""> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">If not, can anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a character, who's meshes have been enveloped to a rig.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p>< /span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Cheers!!!</span>< /font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Saf Efstathiou</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o :p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">NCCA Demonstrator</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span> </font></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Saf Efstathiou</span></font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">NCCA Demonstrator</span></font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial Black"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black"; color: blue;"><a href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">sefstathiou@(protected)</span></font></a>< /span></font><font color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: blue;"> </span></font><span style=""><o:p>< /o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" color="green" face="Arial Black"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial Black"; color: green;"><a href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">www.onionboy.co.uk</span></font></a></span></font> <font color="green" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: green;"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span> </font></p> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Bradley R. 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