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Animation Ghosting

Animation Ghosting

2004-04-23       - By Bradley Gabe

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Ghosting in XSI 4.0 is very powerful and incredibly versatile. It's both
a camera option and a per object option.

Camera Settings:
- You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they display per
camera.
- Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors, trail
length, and fading effects.
- Each camera can have a unique setting for whether to show per frame
ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or both.

Per Object Settings:
- Ghosting per object is treated as a visibility property, alongside
view and render visibility.
- Each object's ghost can have a unique graphical representation:
   -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry)
   -Point (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info)
   -Pose (Ghosts the object's center)
   -Velocity (Ghosts a vector representation of the change in velocity
over time. This one is incredibly powerful for checking animation
smoothness!)
   -Trail (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling on)

There are so many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a very
core level, so a lot of really cool tricks are out there just waiting to
be discovered.

As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that you could turn
on ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body Dynamics.
Depending on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects
involved, you can use ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the
simulation will turn out! Here's an example of what you can do with this:

Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the various RBD
properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and friction
parameters and see the sim path of your object update the size of its
bounces!

You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in real time
in order to adjust the results of the simulations.

No more tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball makes
it through the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your sliders
until the ghost shows the ball going where you want it to.

-Brad

> That's fantastic, cheers for the info, it certainly a feature that
> many of our students (especially from a traditional animation
> background) have been crying out for!  Does it work as a script, an
> animation mixer option or an operator on the characters mesh?
>
>  
>
> Saf Efstathiou
>
> NCCA Demonstrator
>
> sefstathiou@(protected) <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)>
>
> www.onionboy.co.uk <http://www.onionboy.co.uk>
>
> -- --Original Message-- --
> *From:* Robert Moodie [mailto:robertm@(protected)]
> *Sent**:* 23 April 2004 16:52
> *To:* XSI@(protected)
> *Subject:* Re: Animation Ghosting
>
>  
>
> Yes, and it is tight!
>
>  
>
> I went through it with 1 of our animators and there was nothing that
> he wanted to see that wasn't there - including IK/FK ghosting
>
>  
>
> There was a great trick discovered by someone on the beta programme
> were animation ghosting allowed you to see the ghosting for a rigid
> body simulation :-)
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>     -- -- Original Message -- --
>
>     *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)>
>
>     *To:* XSI@(protected) <mailto:XSI@(protected)>
>
>     *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2004 10:56 AM
>
>     *Subject:* Animation Ghosting
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     Hello,
>
>      
>
>     Can anyone verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in
>     XSI 4?
>
>     If not, can anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a
>     character, who's meshes have been enveloped to a rig.
>
>      
>
>     Cheers!!!
>
>     Saf Efstathiou
>
>     NCCA Demonstrator
>
>      
>
>     Saf Efstathiou
>
>     NCCA Demonstrator
>
>     sefstathiou@(protected) <mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)>
>
>     www.onionboy.co.uk <http://www.onionboy.co.uk>
>
>      
>

--
Bradley R. Gabe
Industrial Light & Magic


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Ghosting in XSI 4.0 is very powerful and incredibly versatile. It's
both a camera option and a per object option.<br>
<br>
Camera Settings:<br>
- You can choose which cameras show ghosting and how they display per
camera. <br>
- Each camera can have a unique setting for ghosting colors, trail
length, and fading effects.<br>
- Each camera can have a unique setting for whether to show per frame
ghosting, ghosting keyframes, or both.<br>
<br>
Per Object Settings:<br>
- Ghosting per object is treated as a visibility property, alongside
view and render visibility.<br>
- Each object's ghost can have a unique graphical representation:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Object (Ghosts the entire object geometry)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Point (Ghosts just a position marker, no rot info)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Pose (Ghosts the object's center)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Velocity (Ghosts a vector representation of the change in
velocity
over time. This one is incredibly powerful for checking animation
smoothness!)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Trail (Creates a curve path the ghosted object is traveling
on)<br>
<br>
There are so many options, and it's tied into the architecture at a
very core level, so a lot of really cool tricks are out there just
waiting to be discovered.<br>
<br>
As has already been mentioned, someone figured out that you could turn
on ghosting on objects that are being run through Rigid Body Dynamics.
Depending on the complexity of the sim and the number of objects
involved, you can use ghosting to show a realtime preview of how the
simulation will turn out! Here's an example of what you can do with
this:<br>
<br>
Ghost your RBD object well into the future, then open up the various
RBD properties. In realtime, you can tweak the elasticity and friction
parameters and see the sim path of your object update the size of its
bounces!<br>
<br>
You could add wind, turbulence, tweak gravity, etc... all in real time
in order to adjust the results of the simulations.<br>
<br>
No more tweaking values and running sims 100 times until your ball
makes it through the hoop. Ghost it into the future, then adjust your
sliders until the ghost shows the ball going where you want it to.<br>
<br>
-Brad<br>
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 <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That's
fantastic, cheers for the info, it certainly a feature that many of our
students (especially from a traditional animation background) have been
crying out for!<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Does it work as a script, an
animation mixer option or an operator on the characters mesh?<o:p></o:p></span>
</font></p>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="navy"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;
</o:p></span></font></p>
 <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Saf
Efstathiou</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o
:p></span></font></p>
 <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">NCCA
Demonstrator</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p><
/o:p></span></font></p>
 <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial Black"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Arial Black&quot;; color: blue;"><a
href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial;">sefstathiou@(protected)</span></font></a><
/span></font><font
color="blue" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: blue;"> </span></font><font
color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
 <p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="green" face="Arial Black"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Arial Black&quot;; color: green;"><a
href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial;">www.onionboy.co.uk</span></font></a></span></font>
<font
color="green" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-family: Tahoma; color: green;"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
 </div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-- --Original
Message-- --<br>
 <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Robert Moodie
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:robertm@(protected)">mailto
:robertm@(protected)</a><span class="GramE">] <br>
 <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent</span></b></span><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
month="4" day="23" year="2004"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">23 April
2004</span></font></st1:date><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font><st1
:time
hour="16" minute="52"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US"
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<font
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br>
 <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link
-abbreviated" href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</a><br>
 <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Animation
Ghosting</span></font></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>
</font></p>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Yes,
and it is tight!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
 </div>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>
</font></p>
 </div>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I went
through it with 1 of our animators and there was nothing that he wanted
to see that wasn't there - including IK/FK ghosting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
 </div>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>
</font></p>
 </div>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">There
was a great trick discovered by someone on the beta programme were
animation ghosting allowed you to see the ghosting for a rigid body
simulation :-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
 </div>
 <div>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>
</font></p>
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   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-- --
Original Message -- -- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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   <div style="">
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size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">From:</span><
/font></b><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a
href="mailto:sefstathiou@(protected)"
title="sefstathiou@(protected)">Sofronis Efstathiou</a> <o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
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face="Arial"><span
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/font></b><font
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a
href="mailto:XSI@(protected)" title="XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</a
> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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   <div>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span><
/font></b><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><st1:date
month="4" day="23" year="2004"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Friday, April 23, 2004</span><
/font></st1:date><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><st1:time
hour="10" minute="56"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">10:56 AM</span></font></st1:time>
<font
size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
   </div>
   <div>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span
></font></b><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Animation Ghosting<o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
   </div>
   <div>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>
</font></p>
   </div>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o
:p></span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hello,<o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><
/span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Can anyone
verify whether ghosting/onion skinning is available in XSI 4?<span
style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">If not, can
anyone recommend a method for ghosting animation of a character, who's
meshes have been enveloped to a rig.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><
/span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Cheers!!!</span><
/font><font
color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Saf
Efstathiou</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"><o:p></o
:p></span></font></p>
   <p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">NCCA
Demonstrator</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>
</font></p>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">NCCA
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style="font-family: Arial;">sefstathiou@(protected)</span></font></a><
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Arial Black&quot;; color: green;"><a
href="http://www.onionboy.co.uk"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial;">www.onionboy.co.uk</span></font></a></span></font>
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style="font-family: Tahoma; color: green;"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Bradley R. Gabe
Industrial Light &amp; Magic
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