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Felix, that is beautiful :)
It does exactly what I need, and interactively too!
Only thing I could need more is a rotation control like in Helges Scatter,
but I will play a little with Randomize and fix the rest by hand.
Thanks a bundle - if you plan to go to the 3D Festival in Copenhagen let me
know and I will buy the beer ;)
Best Regards
Morten Bartholdy
3D Animator & Visual Effects Supervisor
Colorshop VFX
Denmark
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: "Felix Gebhardt" <gebhardt@(protected)>
To: <XSI@(protected)>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Freezing Particle Instances?
>
> Hi Morten,
>
> if you don't need any funky functionality and something like the
> distribution quality of the particle emission fits well for your case you
> could try this little addon here:
>
> http://www.sukio.de/resources/FLX_Duplicator.xsiaddon
>
> Sorry, not much parameters to tweak but it did what it should when I
needed
> it.
>
> Usage:
> 1) Select your sphere.
> 2) Select your grid.
> 3) Run the supplied ApplyOp command from the new custom toolbar you get
> after installation.
>
> Maybe it helps,
> Felix
>
>
>
>
> Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > It would be if I could get it to work :(
> >
> > It fails on argument 2 stating it is invalid. I tried registrering the
> > spdl manually without succes. If I try registrering the ophost.dll it
> > needs the plugincore.dll and vice versa. I guess I am not doing it right
> > but I don't know how to proceed :( Any suggestions?
> >
> > Morten
> >
> >
> >
> > -- -- Original Message -- --
> > From: "Eric Lampi" <ericlampi@(protected)>
> > To: <XSI@(protected)>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Freezing Particle Instances?
> >
> >
> >> Morten,
> >>
> >> Is the obj2particles not useful?
> >>
> >> I would imagine that your geometry count would go
> >> through the roof. I just had a thought, can you use
> >> the obj2particles script to place regular instanced
> >> geo?? Then you could expand them to regular geo
> >> right?
> >>
> >> Eric Lampi
> >>
> >> --- Morten Bartholdy <xsi@(protected)> wrote:
> >>> Thanks for pointing out the fact that Essential has
> >>> Particles now - I have Advanced but deliver models
> >>> to a company that have both and assumed I had to
> >>> stay away from Particles for that reason.
> >>>
> >>> I am fully aware of the risk of slowdown but I stay
> >>> below 30K triangles total so it is not really a
> >>> problem. I agree that for other purposes it would
> >>> make sense to stick with BBoxes and Instances, but
> >>> for this I need to model some more after creating
> >>> the basic surface.
> >>>
> >>> This is a test patch showing what I need to create:
> >>>
> >>> http://colorshopvfx.dk/XSI/Bulepels_test01.jpg
> >>>
> >>> There are other ways of getting to where I want to
> >>> go and for this I eventually went with Helges
> >>> Scatter tool. It requires me to model base geometry
> >>> with fairly evenly sized and spaced polygons in
> >>> order to achieve the look I need, which is why I
> >>> explored the Particle way. See this test displaying
> >>> how Scatter works:
> >>>
> >>> http://colorshopvfx.dk/XSI/Bulepels_test02.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Basically I was curious to know if there was a way
> >>> to use Particle for this and other modeling
> >>> purposes, as I find that procedural modeling and
> >>> especially random duplicator tools are somewhat
> >>> lacking in XSI. It would really make sense to allow
> >>> "full" use of the positioning and randomizing
> >>> functionality of the Particle system also for
> >>> modeling purposes, but maybe that is just me ;)
> >>>
> >>> If Montreal has that particular problem maybe it's
> >>> time they empty their wallets and go for something
> >>> bigger than 14" monitors ;D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> /Morten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- -- Original Message -- --
> >>> From: Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane
> >>> To: XSI@(protected)
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:24 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: Freezing Particle Instances?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Essentials has particles since v2, so if that's
> >>> the only reason keeping you from keeping it
> >>> particles, it's a non issue
> >>>
> >>> You also realize that moving from bounding boxes
> >>> in the GUI and instances In rendering to real
> >>> geometry is gonna be a quite massive slowdown under
> >>> every aspect, don't you ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Last but not least, if you REALLY need to convert
> >>> to objects, your only hope is in scripting.
> >>>
> >>> No "expand instances on particles into a cloud of
> >>> objects" command is implemented yet, I heard
> >>> Montreal was planning to put one in, but then they
> >>> gave up because there was nowhere in the interface
> >>> to fit such a long name.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -~== Raffaele Fragapane ==~-
> >>> -~== Freelance Technical Animator & TD
> >>> ==~-
> >>> -~== Senior Technical Animator @ Peerless Camera
> >>> ==~-
> >>>
> >>> - Currently London Based
> >>> - +44 798 4955734
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>> -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -----
> -
> >> ----
> >>>
> >>> From: owner-xsi@(protected)
> >>> [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Morten
> >>> Bartholdy
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>> To: XSI@(protected)
> >>> Subject: Freezing Particle Instances?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have used particle emmision to model an uneven
> >>> surface from a group of irregular spheres, using
> >>> instances. Question is, is there a way to expand
> >>> these instances to regular geometry so I no longer
> >>> need the particle system? This is because I want to
> >>> continue modeling on the new surface and I would
> >>> like to get rid of the particles so I also have the
> >>> option of working with the model in XSI Essential.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I tried Isners Instance Duplication script but get
> >>> an error on line 39 - maybe it does not work with
> >>> Particle Instances...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TIA!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Morten Bartholdy
> >>> 3D Animator & Visual Effects Supervisor
> >>> Colorshop VFX
> >>> Denmark
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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