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Back NachrichtDan, I found that merging fixes things temporarily, (well here anyway) such as being able to move between passes again. If you try and move everything from the old scene model back up to the new scene root it screws everything up again...
The weird thing is until now passes and partitions had always been rock steady. Even the dreaded clusters and overrides problem had never occurred here, we were happily living in bliss and ignorance (well, sorta)...
Just read your post about the pass duplication... that could be it since I only work that way (we work in Pal here, and the default NTSC setting unable to be changed is just stupid)...
Will test and see if creating my passes from now on straight from new empty passes changes anything...
Cheers!
Nick Petit Lead 3D/TD F U S E D D D @ M R P P P 20 Thistlethwaite St South Melbourne 3205 VIC Australia
http://www.mrppp.com.au -- -- Original Message -- -- From: Dan Hope To: XSI@(protected) Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...
Nick...
I've actually just experienced EXACTLY the symptoms you're talking about with 3.5, as oppose to 3.5.1....it reall set me back. The odd thing is that the corrupt scene would merge into a new scene fine, then when I tried to save that scene it'd crash, but "Successfully Saved", then I restart XSI, recover sequence, save again and everything's fine, scene is a few hundred KBs smaller and away I go!!! (Apart from small fact of objects being missing from their partitions and not even being found in the background objects partition, this I would have to redo by hand).
Anyway the job's done now so that particular nightmare is in the past...but it would be great for it not to happen again!
Let me know if you find anything out
DAN -- -- Original Message -- -- From: Michael Klein To: XSI@(protected) Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...
We have strange behaviour here with a project where material get lost.
*****
Michael Klein (president)
virtual republic animation and visual effects reichsstrasse 57 d-40217 duesseldorf
t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30 f: +49.2 11.6 02 04 19 president@(protected) www.virtualrepublic.de -- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Nick Petit Posted At: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:49 AM Posted To: XSI Conversation: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes... Subject: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...
Since moving to 3.5.1, our last 3 projects have seen our scene files get corrupted dramatically after doing work with passes. Delete the passes (if you can without XSI crashing) and the bugs and defects disappear... the typical symptons we have found are:
- object properties disappearing in the explorer - nothing refreshes anymore. i.e: no changes are taken into account in the explorer, it still displays the old info until forcing a refresh with F5. Framing in the viewports only frames after pressing "f" and then forcing a viewport camera move/orbit/pan/dolly/whatever - switching between passes crashes XSI - deleting passes crashes XSI
and many more...
Anyone else experienced this?
Nick Petit Lead 3D/TD F U S E D D D @ M R P P P 20 Thistlethwaite St South Melbourne 3205 VIC Australia
http://www.mrppp.com.au <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Nachricht</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859 (See http://iso-8859.ora-code.com)-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan, I found that merging fixes things temporarily , (well here anyway) such as being able to move between passes again. If you try and move everything from the old scene model back up to the new scene root it screws everything up again... </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The weird thing is until now passes and partitions had always been rock steady. Even the dreaded clusters and overrides problem had never occurred here, we were happily living in bliss and ignorance (well, sorta)...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just read your post about the pass duplication... that could be it since I only work that way (we work in Pal here, and the default NTSC setting unable to be changed is just stupid)...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Will test and see if creating my passes from now on straight from new empty passes changes anything...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#808080>Nick Petit<BR></FONT><FONT color=#800000><FONT color=#808080>Lead 3D/TD</FONT><BR><STRONG>F U S E D D D @ M R P P P<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT color=#808080 size=1 >20 Thistlethwaite St<BR>South Melbourne<BR>3205 VIC<BR>Australia</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://www.mrppp.com.au">http://www.mrppp.com.au</A></FONT></DIV></DIV>< /DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">-- -- Original Message -- -- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dan@(protected) href="mailto:dan@(protected)">Dan Hope</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected) href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:33 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nick...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've actually just experienced EXACTLY the symptoms you're talking about with 3.5, as oppose to 3.5.1....it reall set me back. The odd thing is that the corrupt scene would merge into a new scene fine, then when I tried to save that scene it'd crash, but "Successfully Saved", then I restart XSI, recover sequence, save again and everything's fine, scene is a few hundred KBs smaller and away I go!!! (Apart from small fact of objects being missing from their partitions and not even being found in the background objects partition, this I would have to redo by hand).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway the job's done now so that particular nightmare is in the past...but it would be great for it not to happen again!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let me know if you find anything out</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DAN</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">-- -- Original Message -- -- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:< /B> <A title=forum@(protected) href="mailto:forum@(protected)">Michael Klein</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected) href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI@(protected)</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9 :35 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=517451109-25022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 >We have strange behaviour here with a project where material get lost.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=517451109-25022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=517451109-25022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>*****</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Michael Klein<BR>(president)</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2>virtual republic<BR>animation and visual effects<BR>reichsstrasse 57<BR>d-40217 duesseldorf<BR><BR>t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30<BR>f: +49.2 11.6 02 04 19<BR><A href="mailto:president@(protected)">president@(protected)</A> <BR></FONT><A href="http://www.virtualrepublic.de"><FONT size=2>www.virtualrepublic.de</FONT></A></DIV></FONT></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)">owner-xsi@(protected)</A> [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nick Petit<BR><B>Posted At:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:49 AM<BR><B>Posted To:</B> XSI<BR><B>Conversation:</B> Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...<BR><B>Subject:</B> Passes introducing bugs and corrupting scenes...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since moving to 3.5.1, our last 3 projects have seen our scene files get corrupted dramatically after doing work with passes. Delete the passes (if you can without XSI crashing) and the bugs and defects disappear... the typical symptons we have found are:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- object properties disappearing in the explorer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- nothing refreshes anymore. i.e: no changes are taken into account in the explorer, it still displays the old info until forcing a refresh with F5. Framing in the viewports only frames after pressing "f" and then forcing a viewport camera move/orbit/pan/dolly/whatever</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- switching between passes crashes XSI</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- deleting passes crashes XSI</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and many more...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone else experienced this?</FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#808080>Nick Petit<BR></FONT><FONT color=#800000><FONT color=#808080>Lead 3D/TD</FONT><BR><STRONG>F U S E D D D @ M R P P P<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT color=#808080 size=1>20 Thistlethwaite St<BR>South Melbourne<BR>3205 VIC<BR>Australia</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://www.mrppp.com.au">http://www.mrppp.com.au</A></FONT></DIV>< /DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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