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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of kim aldis Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:35 PM To: XSI@(protected) Subject: RE: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!
that would be bug#7345937: women with selective backlight and no eyeballs causes strange raycasting (or whatever).
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Michael Klein Sent: 11 February 2004 11:52 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: RE: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!
It's not really a bug. Dominique used the woman with an selective backlight and forgot the eyeballs.
But 3.5.1.1 handles it different ...
Logoff and back to work ...
-- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of FLINX@(protected) Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:05 AM To: 'XSI@(protected)' Subject: AW: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?
- does your light(s) actually cast shadows? yes, 2 the main light and one from behind. but even if i turn them off the spot on the nose appears.
- where is the main light placed exactly the main light on the top from the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right), both cast shadows.
one point with no shadows from below
- is there another light behind the head? see above
Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is responsible for that if the head is not completed behind. good idea, but no that's not it.
and i found out that if i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone. so, it has to do something with the specular. but since there are no caustics or anything....
i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????
Just an idea.
R,
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-- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of FLINX@(protected) Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12 PM To: 'XSI@(protected)' Subject: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?
hello boys and girls.
<<<<<sorry for huge the pictures>>>>>>>>>
something strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe someone had stuff like this, too.
we have got this:
which is not acceptable.
the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid of this, was:
which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't hidden.
now, there are no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.
how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.
the only difference is the mainlight is on this side of the woman. ?????????
the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off this happens.
maybe i'm just dumb but i checked everything i know off.
any help would be appreciated.
thanx,
FLINX
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dominique schuchmann
digi arts & directing
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<mailto:flinx@(protected)> flinx@(protected)
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>that would be bug#7345937: women with selective backlight and no eyeballs causes strange raycasting (or whatever).< /span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It's not really a bug. Dominique used the woman with an selective backlight and forgot the eyeballs.</span></font><o:p>< /o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- does your light(s) actually cast shadows? </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>yes, 2 the main light and one from behind. but even if i turn them off</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:blue'> </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>the spot on the nose appears.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- where is the main light placed exactly </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>the main light on the top from the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right), both cast shadows.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:red'>one point with no shadows from below</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- is there another light behind the head? </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>see above</span></font> <font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is responsible for that if the head is not completed behind. </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>good idea, but no that's not it.</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>and i found out that if i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone. so, it has to do something with the specular. but since there are no caustics or anything....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????< /span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Just an idea.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid of this, was:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off this happens.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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