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strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!

strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!

2004-02-11       - By lpiasecki76

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LOL!



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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
kim aldis
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:35 PM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!



that would be bug#7345937: women with selective backlight and no eyeballs
causes strange raycasting (or whatever).








 __ __  


From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Michael Klein
Sent: 11 February 2004 11:52
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!

It's not really a bug. Dominique used the woman with an selective backlight
and forgot the eyeballs.

But 3.5.1.1 handles it different ...



Logoff and back to work ...



-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
FLINX@(protected)
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:05 AM
To: 'XSI@(protected)'
Subject: AW: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?



- does your light(s) actually cast shadows?  yes, 2 the main light and one
from behind. but even if i turn them off the spot on the nose appears.

- where is the main light placed exactly  the main light on the top from the
left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right), both cast
shadows.

                                                           one point with
no shadows from below

- is there another light behind the head?  see above



Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is
responsible for that if the head is not completed behind.  good idea, but no
that's not it.

and i found out that if i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone.
so, it has to do something with the specular. but since there are no
caustics or anything....

i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????



Just an idea.



R,

President



*****



Michael Klein
(president)


virtual republic
animation and visual effects
reichsstrasse 57
d-40217 duesseldorf

t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30
f: +49.2 11.6 02 04 19
president@(protected)
<http://www.virtualrepublic.de/> www.virtualrepublic.de

-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
FLINX@(protected)
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12 PM
To: 'XSI@(protected)'
Subject: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?

hello boys and girls.

<<<<<sorry for huge the pictures>>>>>>>>>



something strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe
someone had stuff like this, too.



we have got this:

which is not acceptable.



the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid
of this, was:

which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't hidden.



now, there are no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.



how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this
effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.

the only difference is the mainlight is on this side of the woman. ?????????

the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off this happens.



maybe i'm just dumb but i checked everything i know off.



any help would be appreciated.



thanx,



FLINX

aka

dominique schuchmann



digi arts & directing

<mailto:flinx@(protected)>  

<mailto:flinx@(protected)> flinx@(protected)

http:// <http://www.mark13.com/> www.mark13.com  



johannesstr.58a

70176 stuttgart



+49 - (0) - 711 - 9933930




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owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, <st1:date
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> XSI@(protected)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: strange raycasting
(or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p><
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>that would be bug#7345937: women with
selective backlight and no eyeballs causes strange raycasting (or whatever).<
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 11 February 2004 11:52<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> XSI@(protected)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: strange raycasting
(or whatever) thing? a 3.5 issue!!!</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p><
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It's not really a bug. Dominique used the
woman with an selective backlight and forgot the eyeballs.</span></font><o:p><
/o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>But 3.5.1.1 handles it different ...</span
></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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-Original
Message-- --<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of
</span></b>FLINX@(protected)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, <st1:date
Year="2004" Day="11" Month="2" ls="trans" w:st="on">February 11, 2004</st1:date>
<st1:time Minute="05" Hour="10" w:st="on">10:05 AM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'XSI@(protected)'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: strange raycasting
(or whatever) thing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- does your light(s) actually cast
shadows?&nbsp; </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>yes, 2 the main light and
one from behind. but even if i turn them off</span></font><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>the spot on the nose
appears.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- where is the main light placed
exactly&nbsp; </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>the main light on the top
from the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right), both
cast shadows.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:red'>one point with no shadows from below</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- is there another light behind the
head?&nbsp; </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>see above</span></font>
<font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a
shadow light from behind is responsible for that if the head is not completed
behind.&nbsp; </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>good idea,&nbsp;but no
that's not it.</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p>
</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>and i found out that if i turn the eyeball
to a lambert the thing is gone. so, it has to do something with the specular.
but since there are no caustics or anything....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????<
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Just an idea.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>R,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>*****</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Michael Klein<br>
(president)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>virtual republic<br>
animation and visual effects<br>
reichsstrasse 57<br>
d-40217 duesseldorf<br>
<br>
t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30<br>
f: +49.2 11.6 <st1:date Year="19" Day="04" Month="2" ls="trans" w:st="on">02 04
19</st1:date><br>
president@(protected)<br>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.virtualrepublic.de/"><font size=2><span style='font-size:10
.0pt'>www.virtualrepublic.de</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-- --Original Message-- --
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of
</span></b>FLINX@(protected)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, <st1:date
Year="2004" Day="10" Month="2" ls="trans" w:st="on">February 10, 2004</st1:date>
<st1:time Minute="12" Hour="17" w:st="on">5:12 PM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'XSI@(protected)'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> strange raycasting (or
whatever) thing?</span></font><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>hello boys and girls.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;sorry for huge the
pictures&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>something strange happening here and i sort of tried
everything, maybe someone had stuff like this, too.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>we have got this:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><img border=0 width=253 height=183 id="_x0000_i1026"
src="cid:image001.jpg@(protected)" align=baseline>&nbsp;which is not
acceptable.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the
lights) i got rid of this, was:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><img border=0 width=269 height=149 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="cid:image002.jpg@(protected)" align=baseline>&nbsp;which is kind of
right, if the eye wasn't hidden.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>now, there are no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing)
NOT causing this effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the
same.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the only difference is the mainlight is on this side of the
woman.&nbsp;?????????</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off
this happens.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>maybe i'm just dumb but i checked everything i know off.<
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>any help would be appreciated.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>thanx,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>FLINX</span></font></b><
/strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>aka</span></font></b><
/strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>dominique schuchmann<
/span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>digi arts &amp; directing<
/span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'><a href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"><
/a></span></font>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"><font size=2
face="OCR A Extended"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended
"'>flinx@(protected)</span></font></a></span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><u><font size=2 color=blue face="OCR A Extended">
<span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended";color:blue'>http://</span>
</font></u></b></strong><a
href="http://www.mark13.com/"><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended">
<span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>www.mark13.com</span><
/font></b></strong></a><strong><b><font
size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A
Extended"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>johannesstr.58a</span><
/font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>70176 <st1:City w:st="on"
><st1:place
w:st="on">stuttgart</st1:place></st1:City></span></font></b></strong><o:p></o
:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="OCR A Extended"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"OCR A Extended"'>+49 - (0) - 711 - 9933930
</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

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