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We worked out that this is a render problem with XSI 3.5.
3.5.1.1 renders fine ...
But what the heck is MR or 3.5 doing?
Whatever ... updating to latest XSI is a solution and don't care anymore
about history ...
President
-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
FLINX@(protected)
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:05 AM
To: 'XSI@(protected)'
Subject: AW: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?
- does your light(s) actually cast shadows? yes, 2 the main light and one
from behind. but even if i turn them off the spot on the nose appears.
- where is the main light placed exactly the main light on the top from the
left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right), both cast
shadows.
one point with
no shadows from below
- is there another light behind the head? see above
Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is
responsible for that if the head is not completed behind. good idea, but no
that's not it.
and i found out that if i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone.
so, it has to do something with the specular. but since there are no
caustics or anything....
i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????
Just an idea.
R,
President
*****
Michael Klein
(president)
virtual republic
animation and visual effects
reichsstrasse 57
d-40217 duesseldorf
t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30
f: +49.2 11.6 02 04 19
president@(protected)
<http://www.virtualrepublic.de/> www.virtualrepublic.de
-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
FLINX@(protected)
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12 PM
To: 'XSI@(protected)'
Subject: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?
hello boys and girls.
<<<<<sorry for huge the pictures>>>>>>>>>
something strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe
someone had stuff like this, too.
we have got this:
which is not acceptable.
the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid
of this, was:
which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't hidden.
now, there are no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.
how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this
effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.
the only difference is the mainlight is on this side of the woman. ?????????
the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off this happens.
maybe i'm just dumb but i checked everything i know off.
any help would be appreciated.
thanx,
FLINX
aka
dominique schuchmann
digi arts & directing
<mailto:flinx@(protected)>
<mailto:flinx@(protected)> flinx@(protected)
http:// <http://www.mark13.com/> www.mark13.com
johannesstr.58a
70176 stuttgart
+49 - (0) - 711 - 9933930
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=281143411-11022004>We
worked out that this is a render problem with XSI 3.5.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004>3.5.1.1 renders fine ...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=281143411-11022004>But
what the heck is MR or 3.5 doing?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004>Whatever ... updating to latest XSI is a solution and
don't care anymore about history ...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004>President</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=281143411-11022004> </SPAN>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B
>
owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>FLINX@(protected)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:05
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'XSI@(protected)'<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: strange raycasting
(or whatever) thing?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV align=left><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>- does your light(s) actually cast shadows?<SPAN
class=680065908-11022004> <FONT color=#ff0000>yes, 2 the main light
and one from behind. but even if i turn them off</FONT> <FONT
color=#ff0000>the spot on the nose
appears.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>- where is the main light placed exactly<SPAN
class=680065908-11022004> <FONT color=#ff0000>the main light on the
top from the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her
right), both cast shadows.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=680065908-11022004>
<FONT color=#ff0000>one point with no shadows from
below</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>- is there another light behind the head?<SPAN
class=680065908-11022004> <FONT color=#ff0000>see
above</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow
light from behind is responsible for that if the head is not completed
behind.<SPAN class=680065908-11022004> <FONT color=#ff0000>good
idea, but no that's not
it.</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=+0><FONT
color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN class=680065908-11022004>and i found out that if
i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone. so, it has to do
something with the specular. but since there are no caustics or
anything....</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=+0><FONT
color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN class=680065908-11022004>i'm sort of lost.
????????????????????</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Just an idea.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>R,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>President</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>*****</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Michael
Klein<BR>(president)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2>virtual
republic<BR>animation and visual effects<BR>reichsstrasse 57<BR>d-40217
duesseldorf<BR><BR>t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30<BR>f: +49.2 11.6 02 04
19<BR>president@(protected)<BR></FONT><A
href="http://www.virtualrepublic.de/"><FONT
size=2>www.virtualrepublic.de</FONT></A></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>FLINX@(protected)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'XSI@(protected)'<BR><B>Subject:</B> strange
raycasting
(or whatever) thing?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>hello boys
and
girls.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004><<<<<sorry for huge the
pictures>>>>>>>>></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>something
strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe someone had
stuff like this, too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>we have got
this:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004><IMG alt=""
hspace=0 src="cid:281143411@(protected)" align=baseline
border=0> which is not acceptable.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the only way
(after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid of this,
was:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004><IMG alt=""
hspace=0 src="cid:281143411@(protected)" align=baseline
border=0> which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't
hidden.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>now, there
are
no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>how come this
eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this effect on
the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the only
difference is the mainlight is on this side of the
woman. ?????????</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the lights
are
area lights, but even when turning them off this
happens.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>maybe i'm
just
dumb but i checked everything i know off.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>any help
would
be appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=784465715-10022004>thanx,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
size=2>FLINX</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
size=1>aka</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2>dominique
schuchmann</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=1>digi arts &
;
directing</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2><FONT
face=Arial></FONT><A
href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"></A></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><A href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"><FONT
face="OCR A Extended" size=2>flinx@(protected)</FONT></A></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="OCR A Extended" color=#0000ff
size=2><U><STRONG>http://</STRONG></U></FONT><A
href="http://www.mark13.com/"><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
size=2><STRONG>www.mark13.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT
size=2><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended">
</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
size=2>johannesstr.58a</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2>70176
stuttgart</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=left> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2>+49 - (0) -
711
- 9933930</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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