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AW: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?

AW: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?

2004-02-11       - By FLINX@(protected)

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- does your light(s) actually cast shadows?  yes, 2 the main light and
one from behind. but even if i turn them off the spot on the nose
appears.
- where is the main light placed exactly  the main light on the top from
the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right),
both cast shadows.
                                                           one point
with no shadows from below
- is there another light behind the head?  see above

Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is
responsible for that if the head is not completed behind.  good idea,
but no that's not it.
and i found out that if i turn the eyeball to a lambert the thing is
gone. so, it has to do something with the specular. but since there are
no caustics or anything....
i'm sort of lost. ????????????????????

Just an idea.

R,
President

*****

Michael Klein
(president)

virtual republic
animation and visual effects
reichsstrasse 57
d-40217 duesseldorf

t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30
f: +49.2 11.6 02 04 19
president@(protected)
<http://www.virtualrepublic.de/> www.virtualrepublic.de

-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf
Of FLINX@(protected)
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12 PM
To: 'XSI@(protected)'
Subject: strange raycasting (or whatever) thing?


hello boys and girls.
<<<<<sorry for huge the pictures>>>>>>>>>

something strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe
someone had stuff like this, too.

we have got this:
which is not acceptable.

the only way (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got
rid of this, was:
which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't hidden.

now, there are no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.

how come this eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing
this effect on the other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.
the only difference is the mainlight is on this side of the woman.
?????????
the lights are area lights, but even when turning them off this happens.

maybe i'm just dumb but i checked everything i know off.

any help would be appreciated.

thanx,

FLINX
aka
dominique schuchmann

digi arts & directing
<mailto:flinx@(protected)>  
<mailto:flinx@(protected)> flinx@(protected)
http:// <http://www.mark13.com/> www.mark13.com  

johannesstr.58a
70176 stuttgart

+49 - (0) - 711 - 9933930



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 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>
<FONT
 size=2>- does your light(s) actually cast shadows?<SPAN
 class=680065908-11022004>&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>yes, 2 the main light and
 one from behind. but even if i turn them off</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT
 color=#ff0000>the spot on the nose
 appears.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>
<FONT
 size=2>- where is the main light placed exactly<SPAN
 class=680065908-11022004>&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>the main light on the top
 from the left(her right), one from the top behind on the left (her right),
 both cast shadows.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>
<FONT
 size=2><SPAN
 class=680065908-11022004>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 <FONT color=#ff0000>one point with no shadows from
 below</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>
<FONT
 size=2>- is there another light behind the head?<SPAN
 class=680065908-11022004>&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>see
 above</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>
<FONT
 size=2>Probably the eye is not 100% solid and a shadow light from behind is
 responsible for that if the head is not completed behind.<SPAN
 class=680065908-11022004>&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>good idea,&nbsp;but no
 that's not it.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT color=
#ff0000
 size=2><SPAN class=680065908-11022004>and i found out that if i turn the
 eyeball to a lambert the thing is gone. so, it has to do something with the
 specular. but since there are no caustics or
 anything....</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT color=
#ff0000
 size=2><SPAN class=680065908-11022004>i'm sort of lost.
 ????????????????????</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
>Just
 an idea.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2>R,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2>President</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=187130317-10022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
 size=2>*****</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Michael
 Klein<BR>(president)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
 <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2>virtual
 republic<BR>animation and visual effects<BR>reichsstrasse 57<BR>d-40217
 duesseldorf<BR><BR>t: +49.2 11.6 01 74 30<BR>f: +49.2 11.6 02 04
 19<BR>president@(protected)<BR></FONT><A
 href="http://www.virtualrepublic.de/"><FONT
 size=2>www.virtualrepublic.de</FONT></A></DIV></FONT></FONT>
 <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
   <DIV></DIV>
   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left><FONT face
=Tahoma
   size=2>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
   [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of
   </B>FLINX@(protected)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:12
   PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'XSI@(protected)'<BR><B>Subject:</B> strange raycasting
   (or whatever) thing?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>hello boys and
   girls.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;sorry for huge the
   pictures&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>something
   strange happening here and i sort of tried everything, maybe someone had
   stuff like this, too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>we have got
   this:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004><IMG alt=""
   hspace=0 src="cid:680065908@(protected)" align=baseline
   border=0>&nbsp;which is not acceptable.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the only way
   (after checking ALL the textures and ALL the lights) i got rid of this,
   was:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004><IMG alt=""
   hspace=0 src="cid:680065908@(protected)" align=baseline
   border=0>&nbsp;which is kind of right, if the eye wasn't
   hidden.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>now, there are
   no caustics, no FG, no nothing in this scene.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>how come this
   eye is causing this effects and (funny thing) NOT causing this effect on
the
   other side of the nose, where the eye is the same.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the only
   difference is the mainlight is on this side of the
   woman.&nbsp;?????????</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>the lights are
   area lights, but even when turning them off this
happens.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>maybe i'm just
   dumb but i checked everything i know off.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=784465715-10022004>any help would
   be appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
   class=784465715-10022004>thanx,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
   size=2>FLINX</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
   size=1>aka</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2>dominique
   schuchmann</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended"
   size=2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=1>digi arts &amp;
   directing</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
   <DIV align=left><FONT face="OCR A Extended" size=2><FONT
   face=Arial></FONT><A
   href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"></A></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   <DIV align=left><STRONG><A href="mailto:flinx@(protected)"><FONT
   face="OCR A Extended" size=2>flinx@(protected)</FONT></A></STRONG></DIV>
   <DIV align=left><FONT face="OCR A Extended" color=#0000ff
   size=2><U><STRONG>http://</STRONG></U></FONT><A
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