  | | | Subject: Re: Ideas wanted Idea #2 | Subject: Re: Ideas wanted Idea #2 2005-06-11 - By DAVID STUBBS
Back Idea #2 Recap here: Concept on stitching material should be thin like plastic or (fishing line) of a certain thickness. The thickness of the fishing line should be determined by the type of skin. Thick skin slighty thicker line , thin skin slightly thicker. Go figure
Use an angular needle of (a certain thickness) relative to the skins. The contours of the face make a difference as well so use the contours get the snuggness using the fishing line and needling.
Now, with the stitching under the skin compressing the skin to the mask there is one more problem to address. Here's idea #2
This leaves the masks edges to have some type of edging which can tear off. This may or not be what you want. If you are looking for a snugg fit then use some type of elastic stitching looped in such a fashion that the mask compresses the face at various contour points of the face. Use either the bulges or the dips to accentuate the reaction of tension given elasticity of the threading used. You can use wet leather and allow it to dry. Leather shrinks somewhat when dried.
Using a combination of leather dynamics, stitching material, placement of stitchng within the contours of the face should resolve to a snug fit which works with the face and can stand a little tension of everyday life.
It is interesting how the dynamics of various types of materials can in affect assist with duplicating nature.
My Great Uncle stitched and made sails in the old old days and I too have had a hand to it.
Hope the ideas help
David
Matt Geier <matt_g_geier@(protected)> wrote: Hey everyone. I'm having kind of a modelers block I guess. I want to have something that acts as a means of connecting the face plate to his flesh. screws or some kind of leather or string? Any ideas?
I've tried stitches, but they are so small they are not really vizable farther away.
I've thought of screws, but, would that make sense at all - I really wouldn't see how that could be realistic, maybe it doesn't have to be?
I think the idea I have been leaning toward, is using leather straps in an X shape and positioning them around the face plate. Really though, wouldn't that tear through the flesh. Again, maybe it doesn't matter.
I'm looking for some suggestions. I have spent a lot of time looking at other characters, trying to come up with my own creative way to make it look like the face plate has replaced the lower half of his face. If only I wasn't having a creative block.
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To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account Manager. **************************************************************************** ******** <DIV>Idea #2</DIV> <DIV>Recap here:</DIV> <DIV>Concept on stitching material should be thin like plastic or (fishing line ) of a certain thickness.</DIV> <DIV>The thickness of the fishing line should be determined by the type of skin . Thick skin slighty thicker line , thin skin slightly thicker. Go figure </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Use an angular needle of (a certain thickness) relative to the skins. The contours of the face make a difference as well so use the contours get the snuggness using the fishing line and needling.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, with the stitching under the skin compressing the skin to the mask there is one more problem to address. Here's idea #2</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This leaves the masks edges to have some type of edging which can tear off . This may or not be what you want. If you are looking for a snugg fit then use some type of elastic stitching </DIV> <DIV>looped in such a fashion that the mask compresses the face at various contour points of the face. Use either the bulges or the dips to accentuate the reaction of tension given elasticity of the threading used. You can use wet leather and allow it to dry. Leather shrinks somewhat</DIV> <DIV>when dried. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Using a combination of leather dynamics, stitching material, placement of stitchng within</DIV> <DIV>the contours of the face should resolve to a snug fit which works with the face and can</DIV> <DIV>stand a little tension of everyday life.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is interesting how the dynamics of various types of materials can in affect assist with duplicating nature. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My Great Uncle stitched and made sails in the old old days and I too have had a hand to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope the ideas help</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Matt Geier <matt_g_geier@(protected)></I></B> wrote:< /DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER -LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>Hey everyone. I'm having kind of a modelers block I guess. I want to have something that acts as a means of connecting the face plate to his flesh. screws or some kind of leather or string? Any ideas?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've tried stitches, but they are so small they are not really vizable farther away. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've thought of screws, but, would that make sense at all - I really wouldn't see how that could be realistic, maybe it doesn't have to be?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the idea I have been leaning toward, is using leather straps in an X shape and positioning them around the face plate. Really though, wouldn't that tear through the flesh. Again, maybe it doesn't matter. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm looking for some suggestions. I have spent a lot of time looking at other characters, trying to come up with my own creative way to make it look like the face plate has replaced the lower half of his face. If only I wasn't having a creative block. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.systemsurreal.com/matt/Mywork/WorkBench /CharacterProgress6_8_05.RENDER.jpg">http://www.systemsurreal.com/matt/Mywork /WorkBench/CharacterProgress6_8_05.RENDER.jpg</A></DIV> <P>__ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ __<BR>Do You Yahoo!?<BR >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <BR>http://mail .yahoo.com <BR>__ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ __ ____<BR>************************************************************************ ****<BR>********<BR>This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless<BR>E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs .<BR><BR>To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account<BR>Manager.<BR>******************************************************** ********************<BR>********<BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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