Subject: When will it happen? 2005-05-10 - By Norbert E?er
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I have to agree that we should be more in doing things and not in not doing
things. I really need a big toolset and even the VRAY Engine will be on my
desk but to make a good render i need tS3.2. Maybe we should show the
capabilities of our tS with a tsml reawakening contest. No price - no glory
just showing the world that our tool tS is something that works and will
work in the future.
Norbert
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Joel Blackwell
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:00 PM
> To: truespace@(protected)
> Subject: Re: [TSML] When will it happen?
>
> This post from an XSI user put it the best, I feel, about why
> he used XSI.
>
> "The answer is simple, since you can do anything you want
> with most todays apps, try this and that and make a choice.
> Choose what you feel most comfortable with. Guys here just
> like XSI, not that it is the best or something, go to other
> forums...they like other software and use it.
> Nothing special."
>
> To be honest, I'm not a big fan of the images that have been
> coming out of Truespace users as of late. My eye for a good
> rendering is no longer the same as an amateur's eye, and it's
> been hard to give good comments about the images on this
> list. They just don't look that great to me.
> But, the above guy is right in what he said. The technology
> is so good in almost every application on the market, the
> potential for amazing images is possible for pretty much
> everyone. One of the best TS images I've ever seen came out
> of TS4, and that was due to the fact the guy who rendered it
> knew what he was doing with textures and lighting... and
> didn't rely soley on how good his program was.
>
> There's been a lot of talk about using Vray is TS7. And, the
> reason people are talking about it is because they're too
> busy thinking about what's under the hood of an application,
> instead of mastering the basics of composition, lighting,
> modeling and texturing. I think talking about other apps is
> okay, but it shouldn't be some focus for a community. The
> focus should be producing *better* art... not heading for the
> better equipped toolset. If you're in a production pipeline,
> that may be a different story, but I don't believe that's
> something many TS users have to deal with, since TS wasn't
> designed for the same tasks as XSI and Houdini.
>
> So my point- if Caligari have anything to worry about, it's
> that people have lost the plot, and think the way to a better
> rendering is by having more features. That's not true. For
> years applications have been able to produce some amazing
> works. Sure, HDRI, caustics and GI all help, but they're not
> essential for those that replace them with skill.
>
> -Joel
>
>
> Omar Campos wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I must say I'm a bit disappointed. The question was if
> anyone knew
> > when we can expect to stop recieving messages from the TSML, and
> > suddenly everyone starts talking about how "all the other
> software" is
> > better than TS, that TS users are old timers and stuff like
> that. I
> > have used XSI (the demo version) and have seen Maya
> Learning Edition
> > and also 3DS Max. Though I'm sure they are great apps,
> they are way
> > out of my budget.
> >
> > For me, at least, trueSpace is the best solution for my 3D needs:
> > within the budget and easy to learn/use.
> > I don't intend to buy version 7 (at least, not yet).
> >
> > So why's everyone talking about the other apps? Is that even
> > allowed? If we are recieving messages from this list, it
> means that at
> > least at one point, we thought TS was worth our time.
> >
> > Every month I look at the pictures in the galleries at
> Caligari.com,
> > and I look at the pictures the rest of you often submit to
> this list
> > for commentary and I think "Wow, TS can do THAT?" TS may
> not have the
> > capabilities of the other, more expensive apps, but it can
> do pretty
> > amazing stuff. I personally think TS is on par with any of
> the other
> > apps.
> >
> > The only thing lacking from TS, it seems, is community support.
> > Every time a question like the one I asked pops up, everyone starts
> > talking about how they moved on to other, supposedly better, apps.
> > Just my opinion.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Omar
> >
> >
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