Subject: When will it happen? 2005-05-05 - By David Angelini
Back Personally, I can't say enough good things about C4D. Powerful, extremely stable (I've crashed every other demo: 3DS, LW, XSI, but not C4D), very easy-to -use, well documented (over 3,000 pages of manual...free to download) and a supportive community (downloaded over 1 Gb of free flash tutorials so far). Many old time tS'rs are in that space (I even think Adam Trachtenburg was a beta tester for v9). The only thing which C4D Studio can't do is hair and water (fluid simulation), but you can purchase plugins for those. Honestly, it can do pretty much everything else exactly as you would expect (no glitches or gotcha's) and the learning curve is a joy.
Unfortunately, it is very pricey - C4D Studio is just slightly under the cost of 3DS - but as RorrKonn noted, there are other price points for teachers, students, side-grades and you can purchase modules separately.
Dave Angelini
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> I believe Maya cloth is like XSI's Syflex... fast. Plus, fluid effects > would no doubt add quite a bit to the price. I wouldn't pay $7k for it, > but... there you go. > > -Joel > > > RorrKonn wrote: > > Well I can't even get what makes Maya worth $7000. > > Poser has hair n cloth for $250.OK it's spline hair but it's still hair. > > u can buy the plug shave n hair cut for $395,MOCCA $495 Basic > > C4D,$695.total $1585. > > or you could get C4D Studio Bundle $2995 + shave n hair cut for $395 > > total $3390.thats still a long ways from $7000. > > or LW8 $1695 + Sasquatch $499.total $2194.not even close to $7000. > > If Maya Unlimited was $2000 I'd probably get it but just can't see $7000. > > > > I have 2 Reg# of the fab 5 apps LW,C4D. > > I Still 90% model in TS 6 just like I did in ts4 days so at the end of > > the day all I've ever really needed was ts4 with a Poser. > > but to actually get that in one app Maya. > > > > I'm telling ya something's wrong with the 3D universe > > > > RorrKonn > > rorrkonn@(protected) > > http://www.atomic-3 (See http://mic-3.ora-code.com)d.com > > TS6.6 SP2,LW7.5c,Basic C4D 9 + BP2, > > zBrush 2,Poser 5,DAZ,Visual C++. > > What ever it takes to get there. > > > > -- -- Original Message -- -- > > *From:* Jason E Lechak > > *To:* truespace@(protected) > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:53 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [TSML] When will it happen? > > > > > > I have read that the Maya workflow (?) is geared more towards > > movies, while max's is geared more towards games. Not sure why. > > What the hey. > > > > I > > > > > > __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ______ > > **************************************************************************** > > ******** > > This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless > > E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs. > > > > To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account > > Manager. > > **************************************************************************** > > ******** > > __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ______ > **************************************************************************** > ******** > This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless > E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs. > > To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account > Manager. > **************************************************************************** > ********
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To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account Manager. **************************************************************************** ******** <html><body> <DIV>Personally, I can't say enough good things about C4D. Powerful, extremely stable (I've crashed every other demo: 3DS, LW, XSI, but not C4D), very easy-to-use, well documented (over 3,000 pages of manual...free to download) and a supportive community (downloaded over 1 Gb of free flash tutorials so far). Many old time tS'rs are in that space (I even think Adam Trachtenburg was a beta tester for v9). The only thing which C4D Studio can't do is hair and water (fluid simulation), but you can purchase plugins for those. Honestly, it can do pretty much everything else exactly as you would expect (no glitches or gotcha's) and the learning curve is a joy .</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately, it is very pricey - C4D Studio is just slightly under the cost of 3DS - but as RorrKonn noted, there are other price points for teachers, students, side-grades and you can purchase modules separately.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Angelini</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-- ---- ------ Original message -- ---- ------ <BR><BR>> I believe Maya cloth is like XSI's Syflex... fast. Plus, fluid effects <BR>> would no doubt add quite a bit to the price. I wouldn't pay $7k for it, <BR>> ; but... there you go. <BR>> <BR>> -Joel <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> RorrKonn wrote: <BR>> > Well I can't even get what makes Maya worth $7000 . <BR>> > Poser has hair n cloth for $250.OK it's spline hair but it's still hair. <BR>> > u can buy the plug shave n hair cut for $395,MOCCA $495 Basic <BR>> > C4D,$695.total $1585. <BR>> > or you could get C4D Studio Bundle $2995 + shave n hair cut for $395 <BR>> > total $3390 .thats still a long ways from $7000. <BR>> > or LW8 $1695 + Sasquatch $499 .total $2194.not even close to $7000. <BR>> > If Maya Unlimited was $2000 I'd probably get it but just can't see $7000. <BR>> > <BR>> > I have 2 Reg# of the fab 5 apps LW,C4D. <BR>> > I Still 90% model in TS 6 just like I did in ts4 days so at the end of <BR>> > the day all I've ever really needed was ts4 with a Poser. <BR>> > but to actually get that in one app Maya. <BR>> > <BR>> > I'm telling ya something's wrong with the 3D universe <BR>> > <BR>> > RorrKonn <BR>> > rorrkonn@(protected) <mailto:rorrkonn@(protected)><BR>> > http://www .atomic-3 (See http://mic-3.ora-code.com)d.com <BR>> > TS6.6 SP2,LW7.5c,Basic C4D 9 + BP2, <BR>> > zBrush 2,Poser 5,DAZ,Visual C++. <BR>> > What ever it takes to get there. <BR>> > <BR>> > -- -- Original Message -- -- <BR>> > *From:* Jason E Lechak <mailto:lechak@(protected)><BR>> > *To:* truespace @(protected) <mailto:truespace@(protected)><BR>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:53 AM <BR>> > *Subject:* Re: [TSML] When will it happen? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I have read that the Maya workflow (?) is geared more towards <BR>> > movies, while max's is geared more towards games. Not sure why. <BR>> > What the hey. <BR>> > <BR>> > I <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ _____ __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___ <BR>> > ********************************** ****************************************** <BR>> > ******** <BR>> > This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless <BR>> > E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs. <BR>> > <BR>> > To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account <BR>> > Manager. <BR>> > ************************* *************************************************** <BR>> > ******** <BR> > <BR>> __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___ ___ <BR>> ******************************************************************* ********* <BR>> ******** <BR>> This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless <BR>> E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs. <BR>> <BR>> To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account <BR>> Manager. <BR>> ********** ****************************************************************** <BR>> **** **** </BLOCKQUOTE></mailto:truespace@(protected)></mailto:lechak@(protected)>< /mailto:rorrkonn@(protected)> <BR> __ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ______<BR> ****************************************************************************<BR> ********<BR> This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Cable & Wireless<BR> E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs.<BR> <BR> To purchase this service, please contact your Cable & Wireless Account<BR> Manager.<BR> ****************************************************************************<BR> ********<BR> </body></html>
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