TSML Closing 2005-04-28 - By MF Harris
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Well said Heath,
Tsml is a simple push system rather than a complex pull system.
I'd like to see it stick around too.
Mike
http://www.binkydognose.com/word
-- --Original Message-- --
From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Heath
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AM
To: truespace@(protected)
Subject: Re: [TSML] TSML Closing
As a fellow lurker here, I'll throw my opinion into the ether as well...
It seems to me that for the most part, the TSML has (at least since I've
been on it (several years?)) been a community of more experienced/dedicated
tSers. For my part, I would like to see the TSML live on forever because I
prefer the format and the responsiveness that the format fosters. I am a
member of other mailing lists where the list is bustling with activity of
the elite userbase. The simple fact is that professionals don't have time
to search through forums, and the mailing list offers them almost
instantaneous community support. By having open problems and discussions
DELIVERED to the userbase, they are much more likely to respond. Case in
point, I (consider myself a seasoned tSer) used to haunt the forums and try
to help people solve problems, but I just don't have the time or patience to
do that anymore...
So, to me it's all about the amount of time it takes me to stay abreast of
tS/community. This list has been dead for longer than what could reasonably
be explained by "the holidays", or "school finals", or whatever... The
bottom line seems to be that a lot of the elite tS userbase has gone or
shifted. No one pushes the TSML anymore, in fact, if you were to do a poll
of tS forum users, how many would even know that this list exists (even
though it's listed on the navigation bar)?
My advice to Caligari is that when the new forum goes on-line, they should
re-introduce the TSML as well - maybe re-brand it or something.
With the promise of tS7's real-time remote collaboration and interactivity,
I can see the TSML as a good place to push those relationships, simply
because the TSML seems so much less anonymous than the forums. Also, with
gadgetry almost at the point (another couple of
years) where a majority of techy people will have 24/7 access to email (like
smart phones with email (Treo 650, etc.)), a mailing list is much more
digestible than browsing a forum.
Anyway, that was more like a couple dollars rather than 2 cents, but keep
the change...
Cheers,
Heath
(Long live the TSML)
Dave Gray wrote:
>As a lurker of note, I still read every e-mail I get from the TSML and
>hardly ever visit the forums.
>
>TSML has been with me ever since I bought tS 4.3 and I would also
>honestly be sorry to see it close down.
>
>Forums I would imagine do have their place but the same thing has
>happened to me as it did to Omar on a different forum. Disappointing to
>say the least.
>
>A lot of the "posters" are not to be seen anymore (example Phil Emery)
>but I guess they may have moved on to the forum (or other software
packages).
>
>My vote would be to keep TSML going.
>
>Cheers!
>Dave
>
>
>-- --Original Message-- --
>From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Omar Campos
>Sent: 28 April 2005 02:35 PM
>To: truespace@(protected)
>Subject: [TSML] TSML Closing
>
>Hello everyone,
>
> I have to agree with John, closing TSML would be a shame. This
>newsletter has always been useful to me as a place to ask and get
>advice for TS, being the beginner that I still am. Personally I don't
>like the forums either. I posted a question on April 17th and it's
>still unanswered. With the TSML I can ask a question and would get an
>answer fairly quickly. And there aren't all that many books out there
>about TS, none I would say about version 6.6 and the Internet lacks
>tutorials, so we beginners can't really advance unless we have the only
>remaining source of
>information: community support. I haven't had much experience in the
>forums, but well, the question I asked wasn't answered, so I'm guessing
>either no one read it or no one cared. IMHO if there has been little
>activity on TSML, perhaps it's been because everyone's messages were
>bouncing back. As you can see, my messages are usually long (and I
>don't care to type it various times on the hope that this time it won't
>bounce). Also (I don't know how many of you out there are students),
>some of us have finals and, perhaps, haven't had the time to write to
>TSML or even use TS (I haven't touched it in weeks). So I say, please
>give TSML a chance! Just my opinion.
>
>By the way, my question on the forums was "Where is TSML?"
>
>Sincerely,
>Omar
>
>
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