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TSML Closing

TSML Closing

2005-04-28       - By Hunter Oaks

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Without offense, I've been lurking TSML for about 3 years now, and it
has been an invaluable source of information, tools, and news.  I don't
care for Forums, as they are generally difficult to navigate in order to
find anything useful.

While I am looking forward to TS7 with bated breath, I have no interest
whatsoever in the collaborative features.  Unless there's a bug, I don't
ever call tech support, and I don't want anyone screwing around with my
models.  The list has also served a great many people as a source to
safely get their work critiqued without the fear of it being plagurized
or re-worked by someone else.  I seriously doubt that the collaborative
features will lend themselves to this quite so elegantly.

Call my anti-social, but I really don't have any interest in
collaborating.  My projects are just that.  I will, however, miss the
strength and knowledge that this list provides if it is taken away...

-Hunter Oaks

Roman Ormandy wrote:

>So someone reads TSML on Treo 650, cool!
>
>Anyway the whole point of TS7 real time 3D collaboration capabilities is to
create a new and even stronger sense of community where you guys can comment on
and even correct each others models INSIDE TS7 shared real time space and where
beginners can SHOW Norm the problem they have rather describe them in e-mail or
on the phone. What do you say?
>
>Roman
>
>-- --Original Message-- --
>From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Heath
>Posted At: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AM
>Posted To: TSML
>Conversation: Re: [TSML] TSML Closing
>Subject: Re: [TSML] TSML Closing
>
>As a fellow lurker here, I'll throw my opinion into the ether as well...
>
>It seems to me that for the most part, the TSML has (at least since I've
>been on it (several years?)) been a community of more
>experienced/dedicated tSers.  For my part, I would like to see the TSML
>live on forever because I prefer the format and the responsiveness that
>the format fosters.  I am a member of other mailing lists where the list
>is bustling with activity of the elite userbase.  The simple fact is
>that professionals don't have time to search through forums, and the
>mailing list offers them almost instantaneous community support. By
>having open problems and discussions DELIVERED to the userbase, they are
>much more likely to respond.  Case in point, I (consider myself a
>seasoned tSer) used to haunt the forums and try to help people solve
>problems, but I just don't have the time or patience to do that anymore...
>
>So, to me it's all about the amount of time it takes me to stay abreast
>of tS/community.  This list has been dead for longer than what could
>reasonably be explained by "the holidays", or "school finals", or
>whatever...  The bottom line seems to be that a lot of the elite tS
>userbase has gone or shifted.  No one pushes the TSML anymore, in fact,
>if you were to do a poll of tS forum users, how many would even know
>that this list exists (even though it's listed on the navigation bar)?
>My advice to Caligari is that when the new forum goes on-line, they
>should re-introduce the TSML as well - maybe re-brand it or something.
>With the promise of tS7's real-time remote collaboration and
>interactivity, I can see the TSML as a good place to push those
>relationships, simply because the TSML seems so much less anonymous than
>the forums.  Also, with gadgetry almost at the point (another couple of
>years) where a majority of techy people will have 24/7 access to email
>(like smart phones with email (Treo 650, etc.)), a mailing list is much
>more digestible than browsing a forum.
>
>Anyway, that was more like a couple dollars rather than 2 cents, but
>keep the change...
>
>Cheers,
>Heath
>
>(Long live the TSML)
>
>
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