TSML Closing 2005-04-28 - By Allan McCormick - Burnt Toast Design
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But the TSML has been down for like 3 weeks from end of march to just a
couple of days ago.
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From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of David P.
Angelini
Sent: April 28, 2005 3:17 PM
To: truespace@(protected)
Subject: Re: [TSML] TSML Closing
Dave, Heath
I agree with you on a number of levels, but let us remember that it is
the community and NOT Caligari which make the TSML what it is....and
basically, the community is going away from the TSML.
Sorry....but here are the numbers that prove my point.
Using the search function of the TSML archive, I ran a couple of
queries. I queried for the total number of posts for the first 4 months
of each year (January through April) for each year in 2001, 2002, 2003,
2004 and 2005. The totals are as follows:
2001 - 7,326 posts were made between 1/1/2001 and 4/30/2001 2002 - 4,023
posts were made between 1/1/2002 and 4/30/2002 2003 - 2,521 posts were
made between 1/1/2003 and 4/30/2003
2004 - 800 posts were made between 1/1/2004 and 4/30/2004
2005 - 354 posts were made between 1/1/2005 and 4/28/2005
And if you look at the last month (April, 2005), there were only 37
posts made to the TSML of which 19 had "Test" as the subject and 13 were
related to the TSML closing. Only 5 were actually related to anything
in support of using tS! Now compare that to the 1,142 posts made in
April of 2001 !!!
So accounting for seasonality, school, work, whatever....the fact
remains that the average number of posts drops by a factor of 2 (or cut
in half) each year. Basically, people are just not using it and the
level of support it provides to the tS community is only a shadow of
what it once was. We can all get nostalgic about the glory days of the
TSML (tSx announcements, flame wars, great WIPs from Terry Halliday,
Opie Juan, Andrew Moffit, Dr. Wall, etc.) but that community is just not
there anymore. There is very little to no plugin development going on
anymore and a lot of the old timers (self included) who relied on the
TSML in those days have moved on.
We must face facts about the TSML as they are and not what we want them
to be. Even if Caligari were to keep the service going (taking
resources away from much needed development by the way), you are still
not going to get the same amount of benefit it once provided for the
simple reason that the number of people who use it keeps declining year
after year.
Sorry...but it is what it is.
Thanks
Dave Angelini
> So, to me it's all about the amount of time it takes me to stay
> abreast of tS/community. This list has been dead for longer than what
> could reasonably be explained by "the holidays", or "school finals",
> or whatever... The bottom line seems to be that a lot of the elite tS
> userbase has gone or shifted. No one pushes the TSML anymore, in fact,
> if you were to do a poll of tS forum users, how many would even know
> that this list exists (even though it's listed on the navigation bar)?
>
> Cheers,
> Heath
>
> (Long live the TSML)
>
>
> Dave Gray wrote:
>
> >As a lurker of note, I still read every e-mail I get from the TSML
> >and hardly ever visit the forums.
> >
> >TSML has been with me ever since I bought tS 4.3 and I would also
> >honestly be sorry to see it close down.
> >
> >Forums I would imagine do have their place but the same thing has
> >happened to me as it did to Omar on a different forum. Disappointing
> >to say the least.
> >
> >A lot of the "posters" are not to be seen anymore (example Phil
> >Emery) but I guess they may have moved on to the forum (or other
> >software packages).
> >
> >My vote would be to keep TSML going.
> >
> >Cheers!
> >Dave
> >
>
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