TSML Closing 2005-04-28 - By Joel Blackwell
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I'm looking forward to the TS7 discussions that arise on this list in
the not too distant future.
-Joel
Heath wrote:
> As a fellow lurker here, I'll throw my opinion into the ether as well...
>
> It seems to me that for the most part, the TSML has (at least since I've
> been on it (several years?)) been a community of more
> experienced/dedicated tSers. For my part, I would like to see the TSML
> live on forever because I prefer the format and the responsiveness that
> the format fosters. I am a member of other mailing lists where the list
> is bustling with activity of the elite userbase. The simple fact is
> that professionals don't have time to search through forums, and the
> mailing list offers them almost instantaneous community support. By
> having open problems and discussions DELIVERED to the userbase, they are
> much more likely to respond. Case in point, I (consider myself a
> seasoned tSer) used to haunt the forums and try to help people solve
> problems, but I just don't have the time or patience to do that anymore...
>
> So, to me it's all about the amount of time it takes me to stay abreast
> of tS/community. This list has been dead for longer than what could
> reasonably be explained by "the holidays", or "school finals", or
> whatever... The bottom line seems to be that a lot of the elite tS
> userbase has gone or shifted. No one pushes the TSML anymore, in fact,
> if you were to do a poll of tS forum users, how many would even know
> that this list exists (even though it's listed on the navigation bar)?
> My advice to Caligari is that when the new forum goes on-line, they
> should re-introduce the TSML as well - maybe re-brand it or something.
> With the promise of tS7's real-time remote collaboration and
> interactivity, I can see the TSML as a good place to push those
> relationships, simply because the TSML seems so much less anonymous than
> the forums. Also, with gadgetry almost at the point (another couple of
> years) where a majority of techy people will have 24/7 access to email
> (like smart phones with email (Treo 650, etc.)), a mailing list is much
> more digestible than browsing a forum.
>
> Anyway, that was more like a couple dollars rather than 2 cents, but
> keep the change...
>
> Cheers,
> Heath
>
> (Long live the TSML)
>
>
> Dave Gray wrote:
>
>> As a lurker of note, I still read every e-mail I get from the TSML and
>> hardly ever visit the forums.
>>
>> TSML has been with me ever since I bought tS 4.3 and I would also
>> honestly
>> be sorry to see it close down.
>>
>> Forums I would imagine do have their place but the same thing has
>> happened
>> to me as it did to Omar on a different forum. Disappointing to say the
>> least.
>>
>> A lot of the "posters" are not to be seen anymore (example Phil Emery)
>> but I
>> guess they may have moved on to the forum (or other software packages).
>>
>> My vote would be to keep TSML going.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -- --Original Message-- --
>> From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Omar Campos
>> Sent: 28 April 2005 02:35 PM
>> To: truespace@(protected)
>> Subject: [TSML] TSML Closing
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have to agree with John, closing TSML would be a
>> shame. This newsletter has always been useful to me
>> as a place to ask and get advice for TS, being the
>> beginner that I still am. Personally I don't like the
>> forums either. I posted a question on April 17th and
>> it's still unanswered. With the TSML I can ask a
>> question and would get an answer fairly quickly. And
>> there aren't all that many books out there about TS,
>> none I would say about version 6.6 and the Internet
>> lacks tutorials, so we beginners can't really advance
>> unless we have the only remaining source of
>> information: community support. I haven't had much
>> experience in the forums, but well, the question I
>> asked wasn't answered, so I'm guessing either no one
>> read it or no one cared. IMHO if there has been
>> little activity on TSML, perhaps it's been because
>> everyone's messages were bouncing back. As you can
>> see, my messages are usually long (and I don't care to
>> type it various times on the hope that this time it
>> won't bounce). Also (I don't know how many of you out
>> there are students), some of us have finals and,
>> perhaps, haven't had the time to write to TSML or even
>> use TS (I haven't touched it in weeks). So I say,
>> please give TSML a chance! Just my opinion.
>>
>> By the way, my question on the forums was "Where is
>> TSML?"
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Omar
>>
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