TSML Closing 2005-04-28 - By Heath
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As a fellow lurker here, I'll throw my opinion into the ether as well...
It seems to me that for the most part, the TSML has (at least since I've
been on it (several years?)) been a community of more
experienced/dedicated tSers. For my part, I would like to see the TSML
live on forever because I prefer the format and the responsiveness that
the format fosters. I am a member of other mailing lists where the list
is bustling with activity of the elite userbase. The simple fact is
that professionals don't have time to search through forums, and the
mailing list offers them almost instantaneous community support. By
having open problems and discussions DELIVERED to the userbase, they are
much more likely to respond. Case in point, I (consider myself a
seasoned tSer) used to haunt the forums and try to help people solve
problems, but I just don't have the time or patience to do that anymore...
So, to me it's all about the amount of time it takes me to stay abreast
of tS/community. This list has been dead for longer than what could
reasonably be explained by "the holidays", or "school finals", or
whatever... The bottom line seems to be that a lot of the elite tS
userbase has gone or shifted. No one pushes the TSML anymore, in fact,
if you were to do a poll of tS forum users, how many would even know
that this list exists (even though it's listed on the navigation bar)?
My advice to Caligari is that when the new forum goes on-line, they
should re-introduce the TSML as well - maybe re-brand it or something.
With the promise of tS7's real-time remote collaboration and
interactivity, I can see the TSML as a good place to push those
relationships, simply because the TSML seems so much less anonymous than
the forums. Also, with gadgetry almost at the point (another couple of
years) where a majority of techy people will have 24/7 access to email
(like smart phones with email (Treo 650, etc.)), a mailing list is much
more digestible than browsing a forum.
Anyway, that was more like a couple dollars rather than 2 cents, but
keep the change...
Cheers,
Heath
(Long live the TSML)
Dave Gray wrote:
>As a lurker of note, I still read every e-mail I get from the TSML and
>hardly ever visit the forums.
>
>TSML has been with me ever since I bought tS 4.3 and I would also honestly
>be sorry to see it close down.
>
>Forums I would imagine do have their place but the same thing has happened
>to me as it did to Omar on a different forum. Disappointing to say the
>least.
>
>A lot of the "posters" are not to be seen anymore (example Phil Emery) but I
>guess they may have moved on to the forum (or other software packages).
>
>My vote would be to keep TSML going.
>
>Cheers!
>Dave
>
>
>-- --Original Message-- --
>From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)] On Behalf Of Omar Campos
>Sent: 28 April 2005 02:35 PM
>To: truespace@(protected)
>Subject: [TSML] TSML Closing
>
>Hello everyone,
>
> I have to agree with John, closing TSML would be a
>shame. This newsletter has always been useful to me
>as a place to ask and get advice for TS, being the
>beginner that I still am. Personally I don't like the
>forums either. I posted a question on April 17th and
>it's still unanswered. With the TSML I can ask a
>question and would get an answer fairly quickly. And
>there aren't all that many books out there about TS,
>none I would say about version 6.6 and the Internet
>lacks tutorials, so we beginners can't really advance
>unless we have the only remaining source of
>information: community support. I haven't had much
>experience in the forums, but well, the question I
>asked wasn't answered, so I'm guessing either no one
>read it or no one cared. IMHO if there has been
>little activity on TSML, perhaps it's been because
>everyone's messages were bouncing back. As you can
>see, my messages are usually long (and I don't care to
>type it various times on the hope that this time it
>won't bounce). Also (I don't know how many of you out
>there are students), some of us have finals and,
>perhaps, haven't had the time to write to TSML or even
>use TS (I haven't touched it in weeks). So I say,
>please give TSML a chance! Just my opinion.
>
>By the way, my question on the forums was "Where is
>TSML?"
>
>Sincerely,
>Omar
>
>
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