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TS7 pricing

TS7 pricing

2004-12-18       - By David Angelini

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Ron,

That is really not for me to decide, but in the past if there has been
no update to tS during your entire ProTeam prescription period, then
Roman has made concessions towards honoring a free upgrade....but I
think it was on a case by case basis as everyone's proTeam prescription
has different start and expiration dates and there is no set date when a
new version can get released.

Relative to proTeam in general, I would consider renewal.  True, 2004
was not as content rich as previous years in that there was no major
upgrade (but you did get tS Illustrator...whoohoo), but I think that was
only because Caligari was 100% focused on the new tS7 architecture.  And
the upside to that new architecture is that (as I read the tea-leaves)
it will make product enhancements that much more easier in the future.
This spells content that a proTeam subscriber may appreciate because as
the architecture makes plugin/shader development that much easier, then
there will be more plugins, shaders and the necessary courses required
to train idiots like me on how to use these new tools.  Though I know
nothing about what is planned,  I can say this with some confidence
based on what we do know concerning the new renderers.  There could one
whole course each on Virtualight, vRay, caustics rendering, etc.  I
honestly believe this will happen...I just don't know when.  If tS7 gets
released early relative to your renewal date, then you stand a good
chance to really benefit.  Of course, if it doesn't...well?

But in the absence of real information, there is hope....and that is
what this season is all about.

Thanks,
Dave Angelini


-- ---- ------ Original message -- ---- ------

> David - are those of us on proTeam going to get the new version as
originally
> indicated. My membership expires at the end of Dec. I think. Just
> wondering/worrying.
>
> Ron Hodges
> >
> > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:25:55 -0500
> > From: Dave Angelini
> > Subject: Re: TS7 pricing
> >
> > The more things change, the more they stay the same....
> >
> > Invariably, each major release of trueSpace prompts this discussion.
If you
> > look back to the release of tS4, particularly when Caligari
announced that
> > the old rPlus renderer was going to be replaced by the more
professional
> > Lightworks package, there were huge waves of similar concern through
the
> > TSML. Back then, there were even discussions of splitting tS4 into
two
> > packages: proSpace aimed and priced for professionals and our
standard low
> > cost trueSpace. Sound familiar? Well, after much discussion,
trueSpace4
> > was released at only a slightly higher upgrade price than used when
tS3 was
> > released and, in time, that price dropped too.
> >
> > I guess the only answer which I can offer is that Caligari has been
in the
> > business for 10 years now (is that grey I see Roman's beard?). They
know
> > their customers, their market demographic and how to best maximize
revenue
> > in that market (sorry...but this isn't charity).
> >
> > I honestly don't think they are going to price tS7 so high that they
lose
> > half their market to Carerra, Real Soft, Hash, etc.
> >
> > Let's take a breath people.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave Angelini
> >


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<DIV>Ron,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>That is really not for me to decide, but in the past if there has been no
update to tS during your entire ProTeam prescription period, then Roman has
made concessions towards honoring a free upgrade....but I think it was on a
case by case basis as everyone's proTeam prescription has different start and
expiration dates and there is no set date when a new version can get released.<
/DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Relative to proTeam in general, I would consider renewal.&nbsp; True, 2004
was not as content rich as previous years in that there was no major upgrade
(but you did get tS Illustrator...whoohoo), but I think that was only because
Caligari was&nbsp;100% focused on the new tS7 architecture.&nbsp; And the
upside to that new architecture is that (as I read the tea-leaves) it will make
product enhancements that much more easier in the future.&nbsp; This spells
content that a proTeam subscriber may appreciate because&nbsp;as the
architecture makes plugin/shader development that much easier, then there will
be more plugins, shaders and the necessary&nbsp;courses required to train
idiots like me on how to use these new tools.&nbsp;&nbsp;Though I&nbsp;know
&nbsp;nothing about what is planned,&nbsp; I can say this with some confidence
based on&nbsp;what&nbsp;we&nbsp;do know concerning the new renderers.&nbsp;
There could one whole course each on&nbsp;Virtualight, vRay, caustics rendering
, etc.&nbsp; I honestly believe this will happen...I just don't know when.&nbsp;
If tS7 gets released early relative to your renewal date, then you stand a good
chance to really benefit.&nbsp; Of course, if it doesn't...well?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But in the absence of real information, there is hope....and that is what
this season is all about.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Dave Angelini</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff
2px solid">-- ---- ------ Original message -- ---- ------ <BR><BR>&gt; David -
are those of us on proTeam going to get the new version as originally <BR>&gt;
indicated. My membership expires at the end of Dec. I think. Just <BR>&gt;
wondering/worrying. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ron Hodges <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:25:55 -0500 <BR>&gt; &gt; From: Dave Angelini
<DPANGELINI@(protected)><BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: TS7 pricing <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR
>&gt; &gt; The more things change, the more they stay the same.... <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; Invariably, each major release of trueSpace prompts this
discussion. If you <BR>&gt; &gt; look back to the release of tS4, particularly
when Caligari announced that <BR>&gt; &gt; the old rPlus renderer was going to
be replaced by the more professional <BR>&gt; &gt; Lightworks package, there
were huge waves of similar concern through the <BR>&gt; &gt; TSML. Back then,
there were even discussions of splitting tS4 into two <BR>&gt; &gt; packages:
proSpace aimed and priced for professionals and our standard low <BR>&gt; &gt;
cost trueSpace. Sound familiar? Well, after much discussion, trueSpace4 <BR>&gt
; &gt; was released at only a slightly higher upgrade price than used when tS3
was <BR>&gt; &gt; released and, in time, that price dropped too. <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; I guess the only answer which I can offer is that Caligari has
been in the <BR>&gt; &gt; business for 10 years now (is that grey I see Roman's
beard?). They know <BR>&gt; &gt; their customers, their market demographic and
how to best maximize revenue <BR>&gt; &gt; in that market (sorry...but this isn
't charity). <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I honestly don't think they are going
to price tS7 so high that they lose <BR>&gt; &gt; half their market to Carerra,
Real Soft, Hash, etc. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Let's take a breath people.
<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Thanks, <BR>&gt; &gt; Dave Angelini <BR>&gt; &gt; <
/BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>