Re: dollar vs euro whining 2005-05-10 - By mykyl1966
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Well I wont type what my first thoughts were. hehe.
How about the fact that you pay $99. thats it. We pay more straight
away THEN we get another 19% added on top of that. Thats not Eovias
fault and I am not saying it is. PLUS you are ignoring his actual
post. This is not a new thing this has been something that has
happened for years no matter what the current exchange rate is. I
have seen many items for sale that in the US may cost $1000 and here
its �1000. Way more expensive.
By the way I know folks who bypass the country check by using an
alternative browser for ordering and get it at the US price so yes
it can be done BUT I dont intend to break the rules or start doing
illegal stuff. Next you will be saying why dont you grab a copy from
somewhere... Joking. ;)
I am not whining just stating the facts and the less name calling
the better in my opinion.
It could be worse we could be paying Finlands vat of 22% on top. ;)
Mike R
--- In Carrara@(protected), "hdaggers2000" <hdaggers@(protected)> wrote:
> When I was in London last summer it struck me that what a dollar
buys back home is
> pretty close to what a pound buys in the UK, except for the
exchange rate which made
> everything cost (for me) about $1.80us. However, I didn't whine at
every shopclerk about
> the "unfair treatment" I was experiencing just for buying
toothpaste....
>
> We ALL know that each copy of Hexagon doesn't cost $99 to make,
nor does it cost
> 77Euros at cheap overseas labor.... The retail price of $250
reflects a market value judged
> against software competitors. That market value is exactly the
same as 250Eu in Europe.
> Honestly, if you are claiming you deserve a discount for living in
London because it's SOO
> expensive... Maybe you should consider the suburbs.
>
> By the way, H&M was even cheaper in London (gasp) than NYC, except
for the part about
> costing me 180% which made it mearly a "bargain" rather than
a "super-bargain".... When
> will you limeys give me back my money??
>
> Have you tried simply ordering a US copy and getting someone to
ship it to you? Is there
> any reason it wouldn't work?
> holly
>
> --- In Carrara@(protected), "mykyl1966" <mykyl@(protected)> wrote:
> > That is exactly his point. If it costs $99 then we should be
able to
> > buy it for $99 no more no less (not taking into account taxes
etc as
> > has already been mentioned.). Here in the UK it is officially
the
> > most expensive place in the world to live. Do our wages live up
to
> > that. No where near it.
> >
> > Thats why it gets annoying at times to once again have to pay
more
> > than our US counterparts for exactly the same product. I tend to
> > agree with him and as has been said life is unfair but it doesnt
> > make it right...
> >
> > Mike R
> >
> > --- In Carrara@(protected), tonyno@(protected) wrote:
> > > Maybe his point is that 99 USD exchanges to about 77 EUR, but,
he
> > would need to pay 22 EUR more?
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > -- --Original Message-- --
> > > From: Ringo Monfort <RingoM@(protected)>
> > > Sent: May 10, 2005 11:09 AM
> > > To: Carrara@(protected)
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate
> > Availability of Hexagon
> > >
> > > Help me out No spam I not to familiar with the currency
exchange.
> > >
> > > If Hexagon cost 99 Eurodollas over there as the website says.
> > > If Hexagon cost 99 USAdollars over there as the website says.
> > >
> > > What is really the problem?
> > >
> > > Ringo
> > >
> > > >>> nospam@(protected) 5/10/2005 11:01 AM >>>
> > > Bonjour Bob,
> > >
> > > BS> #2 - This is a companion license. You must have a valid
> > > BS> Eovia product serial number to activate it. And you are
> > correct
> > > BS> that you can keep your Designer license and have the
option to
> > > BS> upgrade it to Pro.
> > >
> > > This is very nice of you indeed.
> > >
> > > BS> #3 - It is not a mistake. It is simply the price for the
> > product in Europe.
> > >
> > > This is very bad of you indeed.
> > >
> > > The only rational I can see for that is that Hexagon was
developed
> > by
> > > French poeple you had to paid in Euros with the 33 % fiscal
> > pressure
> > > firm have plus the 50 % average fiscal pressure employees have
> > here in France.
> > > Problem is that this pressure does not makes us 50 % richer
than
> > our
> > > American friends, rather the contrary.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > BS> -bob
> > >
> > > BS> __ __
> > >
> > > BS> From: Carrara@(protected)
> > > BS> [mailto:Carrara@(protected)] On Behalf Of nospam
> > > BS> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:45 AM
> > > BS> To: Bob Stockwell
> > > BS> Subject: Re: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate
Availability
> > of Hexagon
> > >
> > >
> > > BS> Bonjour Bob,
> > >
> > > BS> Three questions, one being a call for a fairer price
system :
> > >
> > > BS> - Could somebody ( Thomas for example ;-) ) send us a side-
by-
> > side
> > > BS> comparison of Amapi 7 / Amapi 7 pro / Hexagon features ?
It is
> > not
> > > BS> always easy to compare them. For example, Amapi 7 does
export
> > > BS> to Illustrator while Hexagon does
> > > BS> not. These kind of small differences can make the decision
in
> > some
> > > BS> specific needs.
> > >
> > > BS> - Is the 99 � "companion upgrade" offer a companion
offer,
> > or an upgrade ?
> > > BS> If it is a companion offer, then people upgrading from
Amapi 7
> > keep
> > > BS> their Amapi license valid, with possibility to upgrade
Amapi
> > to Amapi
> > > BS> Pro, for example.
> > > BS> If it is an upgrade in the true meaning, then people
upgrading
> > from
> > > BS> Amapi loose their ability to use Amapi and to upgrade to
Amapi
> > Pro.
> > > BS> So, companion-offer or up-grade ?
> > >
> > > BS> - European customers will pay 118 � VAT included.
Knowing
> > that the
> > > BS> Dollar is 0,77604 of an Euro today, that means that your
> > European
> > > BS> customers will pay 152 dollars what your American
customers
> > will pay
> > > BS> 99. Is that ... fair ? This kind of behaviour is well
known of
> > Adobe.
> > > BS> It makes us badly feel like fleeced sheep.
> > > BS> I understand that you may have been badly advised by an
> > financial
> > > BS> councelor that is not up-to-date with the change rate
between
> > Dollar
> > > BS> and Euros so I am not blaming you, but hope you correct
that
> > mistake as soon as possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > BS> Le / On mardi 10 mai 2005, vous �criviez / You wrote :
> > >
> > > BS>> Eovia Announces Immediate Availability of Hexagon
> > > BS>> New 3D polygonal modeling software delivers evolutionary
> > interface,
> > > BS>> techniques, and openness for beginners and experts alike
> > >
> > > BS>> Bordeaux, France and Mountain View, CA, USA * May 10,
2005 *
> > Eovia,
> > > BS>> developer and publisher of leading 3D animation, modeling
and
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> > availability of
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> > >
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