dollar vs euro whining 2005-05-10 - By Andrew Turner
Back And back in '98, baked beans with breakfast in London was like US 47�!
Cripes!
On May 10, 2005, at 6:12 PM, hdaggers2000 wrote:
When I was in London last summer it struck me that what a dollar buys back home is pretty close to what a pound buys in the UK, except for the exchange rate which made everything cost (for me) about $1.80us. However, I didn't whine at every shopclerk about the "unfair treatment" I was experiencing just for buying toothpaste....
We ALL know that each copy of Hexagon doesn't cost $99 to make, nor does it cost 77Euros at cheap overseas labor.... The retail price of $250 reflects a market value judged against software competitors. That market value is exactly the same as 250Eu in Europe. Honestly, if you are claiming you deserve a discount for living in London because it's SOO expensive... Maybe you should consider the suburbs.
By the way, H&M was even cheaper in London (gasp) than NYC, except for the part about costing me 180% which made it mearly a "bargain" rather than a "super-bargain".... When will you limeys give me back my money??
Have you tried simply ordering a US copy and getting someone to ship it to you? Is there any reason it wouldn't work? holly
--- In Carrara@(protected), "mykyl1966" <mykyl@(protected)> wrote: > That is exactly his point. If it costs $99 then we should be able to > buy it for $99 no more no less (not taking into account taxes etc as > has already been mentioned.). Here in the UK it is officially the > most expensive place in the world to live. Do our wages live up to > that. No where near it. > > Thats why it gets annoying at times to once again have to pay more > than our US counterparts for exactly the same product. I tend to > agree with him and as has been said life is unfair but it doesnt > make it right... > > Mike R > > --- In Carrara@(protected), tonyno@(protected) wrote: >> Maybe his point is that 99 USD exchanges to about 77 EUR, but, he > would need to pay 22 EUR more? >> >> Tony >> >> >> -- --Original Message-- -- >> From: Ringo Monfort <RingoM@(protected)> >> Sent: May 10, 2005 11:09 AM >> To: Carrara@(protected) >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate > Availability of Hexagon >> >> Help me out No spam I not to familiar with the currency exchange. >> >> If Hexagon cost 99 Eurodollas over there as the website says. >> If Hexagon cost 99 USAdollars over there as the website says. >> >> What is really the problem? >> >> Ringo >> >>>>> nospam@(protected) 5/10/2005 11:01 AM >>> >> Bonjour Bob, >> >> BS> #2 - This is a companion license. You must have a valid >> BS> Eovia product serial number to activate it. And you are > correct >> BS> that you can keep your Designer license and have the option to >> BS> upgrade it to Pro. >> >> This is very nice of you indeed. >> >> BS> #3 - It is not a mistake. It is simply the price for the > product in Europe. >> >> This is very bad of you indeed. >> >> The only rational I can see for that is that Hexagon was developed > by >> French poeple you had to paid in Euros with the 33 % fiscal > pressure >> firm have plus the 50 % average fiscal pressure employees have > here in France. >> Problem is that this pressure does not makes us 50 % richer than > our >> American friends, rather the contrary. >> >> >> >> BS> -bob >> >> BS> __ __ >> >> BS> From: Carrara@(protected) >> BS> [mailto:Carrara@(protected)] On Behalf Of nospam >> BS> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:45 AM >> BS> To: Bob Stockwell >> BS> Subject: Re: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate Availability > of Hexagon >> >> >> BS> Bonjour Bob, >> >> BS> Three questions, one being a call for a fairer price system : >> >> BS> - Could somebody ( Thomas for example ;-) ) send us a side-by- > side >> BS> comparison of Amapi 7 / Amapi 7 pro / Hexagon features ? It is > not >> BS> always easy to compare them. For example, Amapi 7 does export >> BS> to Illustrator while Hexagon does >> BS> not. These kind of small differences can make the decision in > some >> BS> specific needs. >> >> BS> - Is the 99 � "companion upgrade" offer a companion offer, > or an upgrade ? >> BS> If it is a companion offer, then people upgrading from Amapi 7 > keep >> BS> their Amapi license valid, with possibility to upgrade Amapi > to Amapi >> BS> Pro, for example. >> BS> If it is an upgrade in the true meaning, then people upgrading > from >> BS> Amapi loose their ability to use Amapi and to upgrade to Amapi > Pro. >> BS> So, companion-offer or up-grade ? >> >> BS> - European customers will pay 118 � VAT included. Knowing > that the >> BS> Dollar is 0,77604 of an Euro today, that means that your > European >> BS> customers will pay 152 dollars what your American customers > will pay >> BS> 99. Is that ... fair ? This kind of behaviour is well known of > Adobe. >> BS> It makes us badly feel like fleeced sheep. >> BS> I understand that you may have been badly advised by an > financial >> BS> councelor that is not up-to-date with the change rate between > Dollar >> BS> and Euros so I am not blaming you, but hope you correct that > mistake as soon as possible. >> >> >> BS> Le / On mardi 10 mai 2005, vous �criviez / You wrote : >> >> BS>> Eovia Announces Immediate Availability of Hexagon >> BS>> New 3D polygonal modeling software delivers evolutionary > interface, >> BS>> techniques, and openness for beginners and experts alike >> >> BS>> Bordeaux, France and Mountain View, CA, USA * May 10, 2005 * > Eovia, >> BS>> developer and publisher of leading 3D animation, modeling and >> BS>> rendering solutions, announced today the immediate > availability of >> BS>> an innovative 3D modeling software named Hexagon. >> >> BS>> Eovia Hexagon, an all-new 3D polygonal modeler for artists > and >> BS>> illustrators, is dedicated to the creation of 3D models and >> BS>> realistic or imaginary characters, and the realization of > technical >> BS>> objects. 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