dollar vs euro whining 2005-05-10 - By hdaggers2000
Back When I was in London last summer it struck me that what a dollar buys back home is pretty close to what a pound buys in the UK, except for the exchange rate which made everything cost (for me) about $1.80us. However, I didn't whine at every shopclerk about the "unfair treatment" I was experiencing just for buying toothpaste....
We ALL know that each copy of Hexagon doesn't cost $99 to make, nor does it cost 77Euros at cheap overseas labor.... The retail price of $250 reflects a market value judged against software competitors. That market value is exactly the same as 250Eu in Europe. Honestly, if you are claiming you deserve a discount for living in London because it's SOO expensive... Maybe you should consider the suburbs.
By the way, H&M was even cheaper in London (gasp) than NYC, except for the part about costing me 180% which made it mearly a "bargain" rather than a "super-bargain". ... When will you limeys give me back my money??
Have you tried simply ordering a US copy and getting someone to ship it to you? Is there any reason it wouldn't work? holly
--- In Carrara@(protected), "mykyl1966" <mykyl@(protected)> wrote: > That is exactly his point. If it costs $99 then we should be able to > buy it for $99 no more no less (not taking into account taxes etc as > has already been mentioned.). Here in the UK it is officially the > most expensive place in the world to live. Do our wages live up to > that. No where near it. > > Thats why it gets annoying at times to once again have to pay more > than our US counterparts for exactly the same product. I tend to > agree with him and as has been said life is unfair but it doesnt > make it right... > > Mike R > > --- In Carrara@(protected), tonyno@(protected) wrote: > > Maybe his point is that 99 USD exchanges to about 77 EUR, but, he > would need to pay 22 EUR more? > > > > Tony > > > > > > -- --Original Message-- -- > > From: Ringo Monfort <RingoM@(protected)> > > Sent: May 10, 2005 11:09 AM > > To: Carrara@(protected) > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate > Availability of Hexagon > > > > Help me out No spam I not to familiar with the currency exchange. > > > > If Hexagon cost 99 Eurodollas over there as the website says. > > If Hexagon cost 99 USAdollars over there as the website says. > > > > What is really the problem? > > > > Ringo > > > > >>> nospam@(protected) 5/10/2005 11:01 AM >>> > > Bonjour Bob, > > > > BS> #2 - This is a companion license. You must have a valid > > BS> Eovia product serial number to activate it. And you are > correct > > BS> that you can keep your Designer license and have the option to > > BS> upgrade it to Pro. > > > > This is very nice of you indeed. > > > > BS> #3 - It is not a mistake. It is simply the price for the > product in Europe. > > > > This is very bad of you indeed. > > > > The only rational I can see for that is that Hexagon was developed > by > > French poeple you had to paid in Euros with the 33 % fiscal > pressure > > firm have plus the 50 % average fiscal pressure employees have > here in France. > > Problem is that this pressure does not makes us 50 % richer than > our > > American friends, rather the contrary. > > > > > > > > BS> -bob > > > > BS> __ __ > > > > BS> From: Carrara@(protected) > > BS> [mailto:Carrara@(protected)] On Behalf Of nospam > > BS> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:45 AM > > BS> To: Bob Stockwell > > BS> Subject: Re: [Carrara] Eovia Announces Immediate Availability > of Hexagon > > > > > > BS> Bonjour Bob, > > > > BS> Three questions, one being a call for a fairer price system : > > > > BS> - Could somebody ( Thomas for example ;-) ) send us a side-by- > side > > BS> comparison of Amapi 7 / Amapi 7 pro / Hexagon features ? It is > not > > BS> always easy to compare them. For example, Amapi 7 does export > > BS> to Illustrator while Hexagon does > > BS> not. These kind of small differences can make the decision in > some > > BS> specific needs. > > > > BS> - Is the 99 � "companion upgrade" offer a companion offer, > or an upgrade ? > > BS> If it is a companion offer, then people upgrading from Amapi 7 > keep > > BS> their Amapi license valid, with possibility to upgrade Amapi > to Amapi > > BS> Pro, for example. > > BS> If it is an upgrade in the true meaning, then people upgrading > from > > BS> Amapi loose their ability to use Amapi and to upgrade to Amapi > Pro. > > BS> So, companion-offer or up-grade ? > > > > BS> - European customers will pay 118 � VAT included. Knowing > that the > > BS> Dollar is 0,77604 of an Euro today, that means that your > European > > BS> customers will pay 152 dollars what your American customers > will pay > > BS> 99. Is that ... fair ? This kind of behaviour is well known of > Adobe. > > BS> It makes us badly feel like fleeced sheep. > > BS> I understand that you may have been badly advised by an > financial > > BS> councelor that is not up-to-date with the change rate between > Dollar > > BS> and Euros so I am not blaming you, but hope you correct that > mistake as soon as possible. > > > > > > BS> Le / On mardi 10 mai 2005, vous �criviez / You wrote : > > > > BS>> Eovia Announces Immediate Availability of Hexagon > > BS>> New 3D polygonal modeling software delivers evolutionary > interface, > > BS>> techniques, and openness for beginners and experts alike > > > > BS>> Bordeaux, France and Mountain View, CA, USA * May 10, 2005 * > Eovia, > > BS>> developer and publisher of leading 3D animation, modeling and > > BS>> rendering solutions, announced today the immediate > availability of > > BS>> an innovative 3D modeling software named Hexagon. > > > > BS>> Eovia Hexagon, an all-new 3D polygonal modeler for artists > and > > BS>> illustrators, is dedicated to the creation of 3D models and > > BS>> realistic or imaginary characters, and the realization of > technical > > BS>> objects. 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