Let the debates end 2004-06-20 - By Dave Angelini
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Stuart,
Personally, I don't like integrated anything on my motherboard for
reliability/repair reasons.
If I am going to build my own PC, then I want all separate modules. Should
a separate sound card fail, then I can replace that sound card. But should
an integrated sound card fail, then I have to replace the motherboard. A
much more expensive proposition. Also, by the same logic, it makes
upgrading those components more expensive also.
That is why I think you should probably put more money and thought into
selecting a motherboard as you are more prone to just buy a new PC than
replace/upgrade a motherboard.
Thanks,
Dave Angelini
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: "Stuart Nezin" <stunezin@(protected)>
To: <truespace@(protected)>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TSML] Let the debates end
> You can save a few bucks. Most MB have NIC on board, also pretty good 5/1
> sound without separate sound card.
>
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:04:36 -0700 Dave Angelini <dpangelini@(protected)>
> writes:
> > All,
> >
> > Thanks for all the support on PC purchases.....Let us just say that
> > I've
> > decided NOT go with Compaq (what was I thinking).
> >
> > Also many thanks for the PC sites. The most informative was
> > Monarch
> > Computer. Lot of good product information to help you make and
> > informed
> > decision and one of the deepest configurators I have ever seen
> > (right down
> > to the thermal grease used between the CPU and heatsink....now
> > that's
> > customization!!!)
> >
> > But overall, the best value site has to be CyberPower PC. If you
> > can get
> > past the hokey PC cases, internal neon lighting, and that overall
> > "ain't it
> > cool looking" mentality, they really do offer some tremendous values
> > for
> > high-end systems. Overall, their PC's were about 10-12% cheaper
> > than
> > Monarch Computers. They also have won some pretty good awards and a
> > quick
> > scan of their long list of user testimonials shows very many happy
> > customers.
> >
> > I was looking at a 3.4 GHz P4, with an Asus 800MHz FSB motherboard,
> > two
> > 160Gb 8mb serial ATA drives (mirroring data), 2 Gb DDR ram, nVidia
> > 256Mb
> > 5950 Ultra video card, DVD 8x R/W, CD 52x R/W, 17" LCD monitor, RF
> > wireless
> > keyboard and mouse, WinXP Pro, MS Office - Basic, NIC, speakers,
> > sound card
> > and some other odds and ends for about $2700. Not bad. I can
> > definitely
> > see myself buying this system sometime within the next 6 months....I
> > don't
> > spend this type of money hastily....also, the wanting is more fun
> > than the
> > having.
> >
> > So do all your learning at Monarch, and all your purchasing at
> > CyberPower.
> >
> > Again, thanks for all your help.
> >
> > Dave Angelini
> >
> >
> > -- -- Original Message -- --
> > From: "Martinez Ricardo.O (NET/Dallas)"
> > <Ricardo.O.Martinez@(protected)>
> > To: <truespace@(protected)>
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TSML] Let the debates begin
> >
> >
> > Ok, here's my $0.02
> > y very second computer, I bought online. That was in 1999.
> > It was from a company called "Cyber Power PC"
> > Yes, I know, corny name, but they were excellent in the
> > transaction.
> > Actually, I couldn't tell you how they were in person, cuz I never
> > had to
> > deal with them. Their ordering was just that good.
> >
> > They can be found at http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/
> > They have an online configurator, that lets you choose everything
> > from the
> > motherboard down to the OS and speakers. Everything is
> > interchangeable. For
> > example: I had gotten a good deal on an ATI video card, so I chose
> > the
> > cheapest video card in the configurator, then just swapped. No
> > problem.
> > Plus: no taxes outside of Cali (at least that's what it was back
> > then).
> > I have no financial stake in this company. I just had a very good
> > experience purchasing from them.
> >
> > Ricardo
> >
> > -- --Original Message-- --
> > From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)]On Behalf Of ext Kris
> > Krieger
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:05 PM
> > To: truespace@(protected)
> > Subject: Re: [TSML] Let the debates begin
> >
> >
> > At 11:58 PM 17-06-04, Dave Angelini wrote:
> > >I am beginning to look into getting a new PC (current PC is 4 years
> > old
> > >Win98 and showing its age). For various reasons, I have narrowed
> > down the
> > >PC options such that only two choices are still left to me....one
> > generic
> > >and one specific choice.
> > >
> > >Generic Choice: Compaq or HP?
> >
> >
> > Me, too, but now I am seriously considering what some folks here
> > had
> > suggested in the past: assembling my own.
> >
> > FWLIW:
> > The problem with computer "deals" is that they're just like Fast
> > Food
> > "deals" - "For ony $1.50 more you can have cheese and double fries
> > so I'll
> > add those on for you..." You're lucky if you can say "No!" in
> > time - and
> > you can totally forget about saying something like: "For the $1.50,
> > can I
> > instead have an extra diet cola and a tomato?" Of course you can't
> > and no
> > use asking.
> > Businesses, esp. big businesses!, do not sell "bundles" because they
> > lose
> > $$ but are just a bunch of great folks - they sell what gives them
> > the best
> > overall cost:benefit ratio. And their salespeople are there to
> > talk you
> > into buying the bundle, not accomodate your specific computer
> > needs.
> >
> > Then, too, I intensely dislikle the little proprietary tweaks they
> > make to
> > the software and hardware, and it's appalling how many hundreds of
> > MBs are
> > eaten up just by their so-called "operating system" stuff. My
> > significant
> > other just got an HP and I find it irritating to even just use the
> > cable
> > internet connection because of all the goop I have to wade through.
> >
> > So that's my take - I wouldn't go for either.
> >
> > I'd normally research local small computer shops and choose one to
> > assemble
> > my system, but I have yet to find any here (in Masachusetts). Then
> > too, I
> > don't know that I'd trust one if I did (although I assume there are
> > still a
> > few mail-order places around, if one wishes to go that route).
> > That's why
> > I'm considering assembling my own. I've done so much hardware and
> > software
> > installations/uninstalls that it's logically the next step. And at
> > least
> > I'd know *exactly* what was going into it. ANd everything would be
> > off-the-shelf/OEM/standard, no proprietary whatsitses laying in
> > wait
> > ensnare a user...
> >
> > Of course, I've also been told I'm compulsive and/or a bit of a
> > control
> > freak, so there ya go...
> >
> > - Kris K.
> >
> >
>
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