Let the debates end 2004-06-19 - By Dave Angelini
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Thanks for all the support on PC purchases.....Let us just say that I've decided NOT go with Compaq (what was I thinking).
Also many thanks for the PC sites. The most informative was Monarch Computer. Lot of good product information to help you make and informed decision and one of the deepest configurators I have ever seen (right down to the thermal grease used between the CPU and heatsink....now that's customization!!!)
But overall, the best value site has to be CyberPower PC. If you can get past the hokey PC cases, internal neon lighting, and that overall "ain't it cool looking" mentality, they really do offer some tremendous values for high-end systems. Overall, their PC's were about 10-12% cheaper than Monarch Computers. They also have won some pretty good awards and a quick scan of their long list of user testimonials shows very many happy customers.
I was looking at a 3.4 GHz P4, with an Asus 800MHz FSB motherboard, two 160Gb 8mb serial ATA drives (mirroring data), 2 Gb DDR ram, nVidia 256Mb 5950 Ultra video card, DVD 8x R/W, CD 52x R/W, 17" LCD monitor, RF wireless keyboard and mouse, WinXP Pro, MS Office - Basic, NIC, speakers, sound card and some other odds and ends for about $2700. Not bad. I can definitely see myself buying this system sometime within the next 6 months....I don't spend this type of money hastily....also, the wanting is more fun than the having.
So do all your learning at Monarch, and all your purchasing at CyberPower.
Again, thanks for all your help.
Dave Angelini
-- -- Original Message -- -- From: "Martinez Ricardo.O (NET/Dallas)" <Ricardo.O.Martinez@(protected)> To: <truespace@(protected)> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [TSML] Let the debates begin
Ok, here's my $0.02 My very second computer, I bought online. That was in 1999. It was from a company called "Cyber Power PC" Yes, I know, corny name, but they were excellent in the transaction. Actually, I couldn't tell you how they were in person, cuz I never had to deal with them. Their ordering was just that good.
They can be found at http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/ They have an online configurator, that lets you choose everything from the motherboard down to the OS and speakers. Everything is interchangeable. For example: I had gotten a good deal on an ATI video card, so I chose the cheapest video card in the configurator, then just swapped. No problem. Plus: no taxes outside of Cali (at least that's what it was back then). I have no financial stake in this company. I just had a very good experience purchasing from them.
Ricardo
-- --Original Message-- -- From: TSML [mailto:truespace@(protected)]On Behalf Of ext Kris Krieger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:05 PM To: truespace@(protected) Subject: Re: [TSML] Let the debates begin
At 11:58 PM 17-06-04, Dave Angelini wrote: >I am beginning to look into getting a new PC (current PC is 4 years old >Win98 and showing its age). For various reasons, I have narrowed down the >PC options such that only two choices are still left to me....one generic >and one specific choice. > >Generic Choice: Compaq or HP?
Me, too, but now I am seriously considering what some folks here had suggested in the past: assembling my own.
FWLIW: The problem with computer "deals" is that they're just like Fast Food "deals" - "For ony $1.50 more you can have cheese and double fries so I'll add those on for you..." You're lucky if you can say "No!" in time - and you can totally forget about saying something like: "For the $1.50, can I instead have an extra diet cola and a tomato?" Of course you can't and no use asking. Businesses, esp. big businesses!, do not sell "bundles" because they lose $$ but are just a bunch of great folks - they sell what gives them the best overall cost:benefit ratio. And their salespeople are there to talk you into buying the bundle, not accomodate your specific computer needs.
Then, too, I intensely dislikle the little proprietary tweaks they make to the software and hardware, and it's appalling how many hundreds of MBs are eaten up just by their so-called "operating system" stuff. My significant other just got an HP and I find it irritating to even just use the cable internet connection because of all the goop I have to wade through.
So that's my take - I wouldn't go for either.
I'd normally research local small computer shops and choose one to assemble my system, but I have yet to find any here (in Masachusetts). Then too, I don't know that I'd trust one if I did (although I assume there are still a few mail-order places around, if one wishes to go that route). That's why I'm considering assembling my own. I've done so much hardware and software installations/uninstalls that it's logically the next step. And at least I'd know *exactly* what was going into it. ANd everything would be off-the-shelf/OEM/standard, no proprietary whatsitses laying in wait ensnare a user...
Of course, I've also been told I'm compulsive and/or a bit of a control freak, so there ya go...
- Kris K.
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