 | | | Re: Carrara 4, SIGGRAPH (OT) | Re: Carrara 4, SIGGRAPH (OT) 2004-08-12 - By Brian Hinton
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Yeah. I don't think it is a well known software package, and you are
definetly right, the focus needs to be made on marketing that arena, and I
think advertising and having available the places Carrara is now (the
catalogs, etc) is a good start.
Brian
> Really? Wow, I graduated from AIFL (not IFAC) about 3 years ago. None
> of their computer labs had carrara then, nor Ray Dreams or Infinity-D
> (which they had a long time ago before me). I wasn't arguing either.
> I was giving my opinions about the schools systems here in Florida
> (when I did my research 3 years ago, and what I've heard of in my
> local area of the Greater Miami area.). Also, I have friends in AIFL
> (most of which are teachers) and they never mentioned Carrara in any
> way, most of which didn't even know it existed until I showed them it
> on my laptop.
>
> I don't know much about high schools, and only did the research on
> colleges. I've heard by word of mouth that Rhino, Bryce, Anim8or, and
> a few others modelling programs were in some schools, but I've only
> heard of that and don't know which schools or if any locally that
> offer those classes. If I'm not mistaken, Claudia took a class in
> Carrara 1.1 a few months ago at a local college, but she's in another
> state.
>
> My point was that Carrara is not pentrating the school market enough
> to capture the possible market-share. The school-systems are a vast
> market which is available to them.
>
> If I am wrong about the things I stated from the specific schools that
> I've mentioned, then please correct me. I'm not negative towards any
> of the schools, nor have I said anything thus, however, the
> environment around the school of SCAD is something that I was shocked
> about (when I visited) and negative towards.
>
> AWBenson
>
>
>
>
> --- In Carrara@(protected), "Brian Hinton" <brian@(protected)> wrote:
>> Not sure why you are arguing, not to be rude, but I've been to the
>> schools, and I know for a fact of a few high schools that teach use
>> Carrara, at least one used Bryce as well. And I have quite a few friends
>> at ringling and fort laurderdale that had seen and used Carrara on the
>> computers there. Its not "taught" at the schools, but it is available.
>> Virtually everything is available.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> > Most schools in Florida do not use carrara. it's an area that Eovia
>> > needs to capture for the low-end market. Although, you'll probably
>> > hear that more schools (at least, when you speak to the professors)
>> > whom know about Ray Dreams Studio or Infinity-D, the precessors of the
>> > Carrara, even if they do not use them. Recruitor know how to get
>> > students and usually do not know the inside details of each of the
>> > many professions taught an any particular school.
>> >
>> > I went to the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale. They used to use
>> > Infinity-D a long time ago as their starting 3D package. Nowdays, it's
>> > 3D Studio as the starting 3D app (3 to 5 classes) and Maya bring the
>> > higher-level classes (3 to 4 classes). IFACT was brought by the Art
>> > Institutes a few years ago. It's SAC's certified whereas the AIFL is
>> > not :-(. Which is another thing that you should consider before
>> > picking a school to go to. Ringling is an exeptional school, but only
>> > accepts 50 students a year in the animation field. Very tuff to
> get in.
>> >
>> > You can try Savannah College of Art and Design in Georgia, which has a
>> > huge department of animation and the works from that school are very
>> > impressive, but I find that city distasteful to live in....
>> > especially, when the school reconmends that you do not have a car (it
>> > could get broken into) and that if you stay late at school working on
>> > assignments, they offer a free service of having a security guard to
>> > follow you home...
>> >
>> > AWBenson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In Carrara@(protected), Mario McDonald <mayito7777@(protected)>
> wrote:
>> >> I am sorry, but I called many graphics colleges here in Florida and
>> > no one knows about Carrara, such as the Institute of Graphic Design,
>> > IACT, the graphic school of designs in Miami, similar schools in
>> > Jacksonville, so I have to disagree with you about that. Carrara is
>> > not known in graphic schools at least here in Florida.
>> >>
>> >> Brian Hinton <brian@(protected)> wrote:Actually a local high school uses
>> > Carrara as its application for its 3D
>> >> graphics program and Ringling College of Art and Design, a fairly
> well
>> >> known art school has Carrara available on its lab computers.
>> >>
>> >> Brian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I have to agree with Luis, I had checked many of the graphics
> schools
>> >> > here in Florida and they never have heard of Carrara. I believe
> that
>> >> > by lowering the plug ins price and developing those areas that
> other
>> >> > products are better (animation, terrain creation{like Terragen} and
>> >> > others), and promoting this product CS3 or 4 to the schools,
>> >> > specially starting with high schools and colleges will improve
>> >> > greatly Carrara name, prestige and will expand their market in an
>> >> > incredible way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mario
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In Carrara@(protected), "lmederos" <luis@(protected)> wrote:
>> >> >> I have to agree that droppig the price of Carrara is probably not
>> >> >> material to the desired outcome. CS3 got me started in this whole
>> >> >> area, and frankly is very reasonably priced.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Although I still like CS3 a lot, and will seriously consider
> CS4, I
>> >> >> am finding Cinema4D and XSI more in line with my needs now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Someone else here mentioned the following (or similar thoughtS):
>> >> >> plugins, etc. cater to the audience they already have -- hoping
>> >> > they
>> >> >> don't forget that audience, they probably would benefit more from
>> >> >> putting development emphasis to take on the competition with
>> >> >> features and making themselves more "acceptable" to potential
> users
>> >> >> by demonstrating the capabilities. For the latter, high quality
>> >> >> samples (festivals, ads, etc.) would complement nicely with the
>> >> > ease
>> >> >> of use. Making it attractive to schools where new users would
>> >> > learn
>> >> >> to use it would in effect create a pool of qualified users
> (similar
>> >> >> strategy to SoftImage's idea of dropping the price of the entry-
>> >> >> level version).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- Luis
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --- In Carrara@(protected), "Kevin Babcock" <kbabcock@(protected)>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > I believe Carrara's price point is right on. Lets not forget
>> >> > that
>> >> >> the big
>> >> >> > names compete in this price range by stripping down their
> product
>> >> >> in the
>> >> >> > hope of hooking you into the more expensive version. Carrara
>> >> >> gives it all
>> >> >> > to you at the low end and is getting substantially better with
>> >> >> each release.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kevin
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