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In engineering programs that i've used, you usually model/draw 1:1
and set scale for printing separately. That is the only sound
solution for drawing/modeling only once and still be able to get
prints and machined models at any scale.
petteri
--- In Carrara@(protected), Andrew Turner <turner410@(protected)> wrote:
> Oh, I see.
>
> Well, I'll say this: I sure wouldn't mind whatever mouse support
eovia plans
> - however, it's not the mouse or lack of fast zoom that's really
the
> problem, it's that Carrara isn't set up to build full-size ships,
or large
> buildings, or football fields, at 1:1 - neither are most
engineering
> programs. This is why they let you choose a scale, like 1/4"=1' or
1"=10
> feet.
>
> I suggest you work at scale. Might seem obvious but if you don't
like
> dimensional conversion...
>
> What would be nice (and solve the problem instantly) would be if
Carrara
> supported drawing scales!
>
> Andrew
>
> From: "ewillia777" <EWillia777@(protected)>
> Reply-To: Carrara@(protected)
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 06:32:24 -0000
> To: Carrara@(protected)
> Subject: [Carrara] Re: Let's talk about Carrara 4, feature
requests.
>
>
> I like to work large, as close to 1:1 scale as possible especially
> when working with a set of plans because I can always scale down,
on
> the other hand scaling up if I draw it to plan scale would cause
> smooth areas to become blocky.
> I usually do ships, passenger liners and such and I like to scale
> plans to 1:1, basically it just makes life easier for me.
> I'm not so dumb that I don't check that my scaling factor in CS3 is
> at 100% before I do a pull back, but start a new file and add a
block
> 800 ft long to the center of your scene and see how long it takes
to
> pull back enough to see it entirely on your screen without zooming
> and messing up the view.
> Besides, whether somebody creates objects huge or tiny, being given
> the option to use the mouse wheel would still be easier.
>
> EW
>
> --- In Carrara@(protected), Harvey White <madyn@(protected)> wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:21:04 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Harvey -
> > >
> > >I understand what you're saying - I'm just suggesting that if
the
> reason the
> > >track XZ icon/drag doesn't seem to be doing much, it may be
> because he has
> > >zoomed in using the magnifying glass a lot.. This is how I found
> out ;)
> >
> > Heh.. . I know the feeling. I think it's also very dependant on
the
> > position of the camera in relationship to the center of the
object,
> > the magnification, and possibly the phase of the moon.
> >
> > >
> > >Any links to those planet renderings? That's something I'm very
> interested
> > >in and having seen some of the work on Renderosity I'm chomping
at
> the bit..
> >
> > Well, some very old stuff at www.netcom.com/~madyn and then look
at
> > the 3D link, then go to the carrara shots. There's a little bit
> under
> > the starbright user gallery at DGC, and there's also a scene or
two
> in
> > the C3 book from CRM.
> >
> > Depending on what kind of planet you want to do, there's several
> > techniques that work moderately well. I still haven't managed to
> > create a good weather cloud pattern, but I'm getting the ice
caps,
> > continents, and ocean down reasonably well. Moons like the
earth's
> > are easy.
> >
> > Other kinds of objects can be more difficult, depending on
whether
> or
> > not you are trying to model "real" geography. If you don't care,
> then
> > procedurals for generating continents are the way to go. If you
do,
> > then you have to play games with displacement maps.
> >
> > Harvey
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Andrew
> > >
> > >From: Harvey White <madyn@(protected)>
> > >Organization: Laid-Off-Press, Inc
> > >Reply-To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:01:04 -0600
> > >To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >Subject: Re: [Carrara] Re: Let's talk about Carrara 4, feature
> requests.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:26:17 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>Not sure I follow what you mean by its only working on
isometric
> cameras - I
> > >>use it all the time in perspective views.
> > >>
> > >>I'm not talking about single-digit percent magnifications (I've
> never needed
> > >>to zoom out that far) - I'm saying if you're at 8000%
> magnification, using
> > >>the camera movement controls to zoom out isn't going to have
much
> of a
> > >>noticeable effect.
> > >
> > >I think we're talking two different things here.
> > >
> > >Take a sphere, use camera 1. As you zoom out, the camera view
> becomes
> > >increasingly more wide angle and distorted. If you were to
dolly
> out,
> > >you'd stay at 100% and the view would not be distorted.
> > >
> > >Because isometric cameras do not worry about perspective, you
don't
> > >have this behavior with them.
> > >
> > >I model planets, and I've had to go out that far, with large
> models,
> > >just to try to keep the scale applicable with anything else
that's
> in
> > >the picture.
> > >
> > >Harvey
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Andrew
> > >>
> > >>From: Harvey White <madyn@(protected)>
> > >>Organization: Laid-Off-Press, Inc
> > >>Reply-To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:47:22 -0600
> > >>To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >>Subject: Re: [Carrara] Re: Let's talk about Carrara 4, feature
> requests.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 05:27:32 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>If it's taking a long time to pull back from a scene, you've
> probably zoomed
> > >>>way in using Zoom rather than moving the camera - you might be
> at, like,
> > >>>1000% zoom or something. Try using the magnifying glass to
zoom
> out first.
> > >>
> > >>This only works on isometric cameras (not sure about
spherical).
> > >>Zooming out with the magnification glass on a conical camera
has a
> > >>very odd effect at single digit percent magnifications.
> > >>
> > >>Harvey
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>Cheers,
> > >>>Andrew
> > >>>
> > >>>From: "ewillia777" <EWillia777@(protected)>
> > >>>Reply-To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >>>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 06:58:48 -0000
> > >>>To: Carrara@(protected)
> > >>>Subject: [Carrara] Re: Let's talk about Carrara 4, feature
> requests.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I just remembered something else, for god's sake if you don't
use
> > >>>anything else I mentioned at least add a zoom to scene menu
item
> and
> > >>>allow the mouse wheel to control camera tracking in and out
> because
> > >>>it takes forever to pull back from a large scene, so basically
> > >>>improved tracking movements with a setting to adjust the max
> movement
> > >>>rate.
> > >>>
> > >>>EW
> > >>>
> > >>>--- In Carrara@(protected), Cecilia Ziemer <ziemer@(protected)>
> wrote:
> > >>>> Well, used cars would be ok, but I'd rather have Poser's
motion
> > >>>graph
> > >>>> & joint parameter widgets-
> > >>>> cec
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >Eovia recently announced that it's coming up with poser
import
> > >>>> >plugin. The exact capabilities are still unknown. Most
likely
> it
> > >>>> >will import animations etc. What else COULD it do? Import
used
> > >>>cars,
> > >>>> >perhaps? ;-)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >see www.eovia.com, there's the announcement. Or ask their
> marketing
> > >>>> >deparment.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >petteri
> > >>>> >--- In Carrara@(protected), "naes3d" <naes3d@(protected)>
wrote:
> > >>>> >> Hmmm... I've only used the demo version of Carrara for
less
> > >>>than a
> > >>>> >> week; however, I would love to see the weighting of
> vertices and
> > >>>> >> cloth dynamics added in the next version. I'm sure a
> height map
> > >>>> >could
> > >>>> >> be fudged to create a dropped cloth as in a still life
> pic, but
> > >>>> >cloth
> > >>>> >> would be great for character clothing and capes blowing
in
> the
> > >>>> >wind
> > >>>> >> and such. Does Carrara import cloth and/or animations
from
> > >>>Poser?
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> > > Sean
> > >>>> >
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