 | | | Re: Carrara needs a REAL cel shader like illustrate for 3ds. | Re: Carrara needs a REAL cel shader like illustrate for 3ds. 2004-01-27 - By pmiinalainen
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I've used illustrate couple of years ago.
The reason my former agency got it, was the flash and illustrator
rendering. You can do toon shading by limiting the color ranges,
lightness etc. with fall-off values. You can maybe get similar
results in carrara by getting the digitalcarversguild fake fresnel
plugin and using it with curves and other mixers. Haven't tested the
method in carrara, but here's how it is done in 3dsmax
http://www.3dluvr.com/content/article/77
and
http://www.3dluvr.com/content/article/79
and especially here
http://www.3dluvr.com/content/article/73
You can see, that thing is to mix colors according to how they face
camera. Carrara has more limited mixing and shader channel system
than 3dsmax, but by applying the principles found in these articles
and using toon!!! and NPR in carrara, you can get pretty close.
I'll try to find some time to test this with carrara. Pretty busy
with some billable stuff right now, so can't help you straight
away...
I know cedric did pretty amazing images with npr. Maybe cedric could
give couple of tips?
petteri
--- In Carrara@(protected), "jackmeaph" <jackmeaph@(protected)> wrote:
> After reading this message, I downloaded a demo of Illustrate.
When I
> brought in a 3d character and rendered it, it actually looked
worse
> than Carrara's Toon render. Illustrate is pretty complex and
requires
> a lot of tweaking I guess.
>
> Toon in Carrara is pretty good though. The only problem I have
with
> it is the lack of control I have over where it puts the lines, and
> the lack of multiple line weights.
>
> I personally would like to see a new shader channel that works
only
> with toon that allows the user to draw in where the lines are
> supposed to go and how the thick lines are supposed to be.
>
>
>
> --- In Carrara@(protected), "darthbobvilla" <spinarouni@(protected)>
> wrote:
> > I really like the toon shader don't get me wrong but it is
> extremely
> > limited in it's ability.
> >
> > the renders are difficult to set up and there are a lot of
> > parameters that are left to be desired on.
> >
> > it is sad cause for what i want to do i would use carrara all
the
> > way but i have to go use 3ds instead and its "illustrate" plug
in.
> >
> > The sad thing about cs3 is that nothing much was improved in
that
> > way. just the interface reshuffle and that is all i can see if i
> was
> > programmer you bet i would write a plug in of this type.
> >
> > i hope somebody reads this and agree that the toon plug in
should
> be
> > replaced or a completely new engine should be done to render
toon
> > like art.
> >
> > my 2 cents
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