Digest Number 2398 2003-12-29 - By m champagne
Back
I'm new to carrara studio, dabbling in v 2.0 awaiting UPS guy w/ upgrade to
3.3 now? heh.......
I've been self studying in 3D now for 4 years, so picking up carrara fairly
easily.
My search for carrara studio based websites are very slim, as you all know.
The idea of creating a community based portal for us all to share ideas
should positively be in the works IMO, no offense to anyone, but reading
thru 10,000 characters to find 3 paragraphs I find interesting isn't my idea
of a good read heh.
The 3dxtract ezine is published once a month correct? Including choice
articles, artwork etc that is obviously worthy reading, but these emails
that scroll a mile down is a bit much ..... just my .02
http://www.dedfish.org
L8r
THIS DOCUMENT WILL SELF DESTRUCT IN 5,4,3,2,1-BOOOOOM!!
>From: Carrara@(protected)
>Reply-To: Carrara@(protected)
>To: Carrara@(protected)
>Subject: [Carrara] Digest Number 2398
>Date: 29 Dec 2003 01:18:35 -0000
>
>
>There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
>Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "Michael Samuels" <msamuels@(protected)>
> 2. Re: That "Damned horizon line" in Carrara !!! need help.!!!!
> From: "David Bell" <nordwind53@(protected)>
> 3. Re: That "Damned horizon line" in Carrara !!! need help.!!!!
> From: "mykael22000" <mykael@(protected)>
> 4. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Stephen Skrapits <sskrapits2002@(protected)>
> 5. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
> 6. ot: any rhino=>carrara users?
> From: richardsan <richardsan@(protected)>
> 7. Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 8. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "m3d242" <trippedup@(protected)>
> 9. Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 10. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
> 11. Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 12. Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: nospam2 <nospam2@(protected)>
> 13. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
> 14. Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 15. Re: Carrara Forum
> From: "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)>
> 16. Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 17. Re: Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
> From: nospam2 <nospam2@(protected)>
> 18. NPR and isometric camera.
> From: "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)>
> 19. Re: NPR and isometric camera.
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
> 20. Something off that "other" Carrara list - C3 handbook
> From: "whkguamusa" <guamauto@(protected)>
> 21. Re: NPR and isometric camera.
> From: Cecilia Ziemer <ziemer@(protected)>
> 22. Re: NPR and isometric camera.
> From: "m3d242" <trippedup@(protected)>
> 23. Re: [Carrara] Carrara Sites
> From: Harvey White <madyn@(protected)>
> 24. Re: [Carrara] Carrara Sites
> From: "David Bell" <nordwind53@(protected)>
> 25. Re: Something off that "other" Carrara list - C3 handbook
> From: "Ron Franks" <rondfranks@(protected)>
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>Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:37:20 +1100
> From: "Michael Samuels" <msamuels@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>
>Go for it and good luck
>
>
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> Michael Samuels " The only Limit is your imagination... "
> Email : msamuels@(protected)
> Home-page : http://msamuels.bravepages.com/
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>TO Reply : Remove The Words NO SPAM from email address
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>-- -- Original Message -- --
>From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
>To: <Carrara@(protected)>
>Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:37 AM
>Subject: [Carrara] Carrara Forum
>
>
> > I want to make a carrara website with a furom, gallery, and other
> > stuff,. I like this site but the messages arnt great. I want to
> > organize messages into a forum so its easyer to use, what do you guys
> > think? Should i make this website?
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>Service.
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>Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 07:17:43 -0500
> From: "David Bell" <nordwind53@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: That "Damned horizon line" in Carrara !!! need help.!!!!
>
>If all else fails, take your HDRI image probe into your graphics editor,
>slide it down the necessary amount, and with cloning tools paint in new
>sky. I have done this successfully, and it is often more of a pain than
>moving everything up.
>
>Yours,
>David
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>David E. Bell
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> -- -- Original Message -- --
> From: darthbobvilla
> To: Carrara@(protected)
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:44 AM
> Subject: [Carrara] That "Damned horizon line" in Carrara !!! need
>help.!!!!
>
>
> how can i get rid of it( the horizon line) when i put in an hrdi
> map?
>
> i still end up seeing it :(
>
> i put in an infinite plane but it does not help much.
>
> unless i pull everything in the air or work out some weird camera
> angle i am shafted ,the only solution i am using is to raise
> everything from ground zero , but raising a hundred things in the
> air to bypass this problem looks ridiculous to me.
>
> any tips and tricks welcomed.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to
> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
>
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> a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>Service.
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>Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:40:23 -0000
> From: "mykael22000" <mykael@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: That "Damned horizon line" in Carrara !!! need help.!!!!
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), "darthbobvilla" <spinarouni@(protected)> wrote:
> > how can i get rid of it( the horizon line) when i put in an hrdi
> > map?
>
> > any tips and tricks welcomed.
>
>Add an infinite plane, centered at 0,0,0
>Add a target object at 0,0,100
>Put a point at on the plane to point to the target object.
>
>Now when you move the target around, the plane 'tilts' a little toward
>the target. To get finer control, move the target higher.
>
>Tilt the plane so it comes up enough to cover the horizon. You should
>need very little tilt, as the horizon is 35000 units away.
>
>Alternatively, you could use a modifier on an infinte plane or a
>terrain that dipped in the center. Both will probably give better
>results, but may require a bit more fiddling to set up.
>
>Mik
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>Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:31:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: Stephen Skrapits <sskrapits2002@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Yes! Please make it!
>
>Michael Samuels <msamuels@(protected)> wrote:
>Go for it and good luck
>
>
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>
>Michael Samuels " The only Limit is your imagination... "
>Email : msamuels@(protected)
>Home-page : http://msamuels.bravepages.com/
>
>
>TO Reply : Remove The Words NO SPAM from email address
>
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>-- -- Original Message -- --
>From: "grogo21"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:37 AM
>Subject: [Carrara] Carrara Forum
>
>
> > I want to make a carrara website with a furom, gallery, and other
> > stuff,. I like this site but the messages arnt great. I want to
> > organize messages into a forum so its easyer to use, what do you guys
> > think? Should i make this website?
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe send a message to
>Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>To visit your group on the web, go to:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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>Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 15:23:18 -0000
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very simple
>forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe later
>if we get some people. If you guys have any images of something with
>carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), Stephen Skrapits <sskrapits2002@(protected)>
>wrote:
> > Yes! Please make it!
> >
> > Michael Samuels <msamuels@(protected)> wrote:
> > Go for it and good luck
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Michael Samuels " The only Limit is your imagination... "
> > Email : msamuels@(protected)
> > Home-page : http://msamuels.bravepages.com/
> >
> >
> > TO Reply : Remove The Words NO SPAM from email address
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > -- -- Original Message -- --
> > From: "grogo21"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:37 AM
> > Subject: [Carrara] Carrara Forum
> >
> >
> > > I want to make a carrara website with a furom, gallery, and other
> > > stuff,. I like this site but the messages arnt great. I want to
> > > organize messages into a forum so its easyer to use, what do you
>guys
> > > think? Should i make this website?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>-- -----
> > -- ---
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> > >
> > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> > >
> > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>Service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:27:56 -0600
> From: richardsan <richardsan@(protected)>
>Subject: ot: any rhino=>carrara users?
>
>i'm gathering a little data about using rhino models in Carrara3...any
>takers? i'm curious if/what export options are used, and if there are
>any problems/remedies once inside carrara.
>tia
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>Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:33:53 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Grogo and all!
>I don't want to be a dink here, but don't you think that building on
>something that currently exists and is "supported" already would be better?
>I think that it's great you are excited about doing it, I only wish it
>wasn't contributing to the mass amount of division and miscellany that
>Carrara and Amapi already posses on the web. Again, if you would like to
>help 3dXtract and offer ideas, suggestions, comments, complaints, or just
>send awkward quotes about pigeons... Please do.
>
>Also, thanks darthbobvilla for the compliments and proper topic! I have
>already received some suggestions directly and I should have thought of
>posting the thread last month! If you have suggestions on what you would
>like to see in the NEW FORUM AND USER GALLERIES, please send those too :)
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Desmond
>carl@(protected)
>
>info@(protected)
>http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>On 12/28/03 7:23 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very simple
> > forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe later
> > if we get some people. If you guys have any images of something with
> > carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
>
>
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>Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:17:26 -0000
> From: "m3d242" <trippedup@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>I'll go on record (again) with the risk of being a "dink" myself in support
>of
>Carl.
>
>Focusing on 3DXtract is the way to go.
>
>Anyone who's ever paid a visit to stratacafe.com knows that the Strata
>people have got their stuff together. They have a single, neat,
>professionaly
>organized hub in which to congregate. It seems to me (and correct me if I'm
>wrong Carl) that the direction Carl is taking 3DXtract in, it looks to be
>the
>Carrara communities answer to stratacafe.
>
>We don't need 40 or even just 2 or 3 scattershot, halfassed web sites that
>represent the community. We just need a single good one. 3DXtract looks to
>be it. Don't waste time reinventing the wheel, help improve the one we've
>already got.
>
>
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> > I want to make a carrara website with a furom, gallery, and other
> > stuff,. I like this site but the messages arnt great. I want to
> > organize messages into a forum so its easyer to use, what do you guys
> > think? Should i make this website?
>
>
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>Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:04:14 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>You are absolutely correct! It is a model for what 3dXtract is attempting.
>The reason that the PDF format came about initially was my past experience
>with a magazine and the thoughts I had to produce it online. The ideas for
>file sharing (models, textures, formulas etc...), user galleries, forums,
>challenges etc... Are all related to stratacafe.. These are not new ideas
>for a user community and I always wondered why nobody was doing it, so I
>started down the path. There is room for improvement and modifications
>based
>on what we do as Carrara and Amapi users, so suggestions are still
>needed/wanted of course.
>
>The plan is not a complete secret, but partner products, textures and
>models, plug-ins, books, tutorial CDs... Etc. are all part of the scope of
>what 3dXtract will be offering in the near future. With specials/freebies
>for registered users! And no, we won't be selling mugs, but we might give a
>few away :) I have already started to develop some materials with others to
>have an offering worth purchasing.
>
>I can't stress m3d242's point as much as it has been already... Having the
>"scattershot" sites out there does little for our community. 3dXtract was
>created to fill those gaps created already by those with "good intensions"
>who already put up sites that the search engines still call up that don't
>exist. Again, if you would like to get involved, I am always open to it.
>Full credit is always given and it is encouraged to "toot your own horn" as
>much as possible. :) Please don't hesitate to contact me directly if you
>wish to participate.
>
>Thanks for reading my longest post in months! Ha!
>
>Carl Desmond
>carl@(protected)
>
>info@(protected)
>http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>On 12/28/03 9:17 AM, "m3d242" <trippedup@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > I'll go on record (again) with the risk of being a "dink" myself in
>support of
> > Carl.
> >
> > Focusing on 3DXtract is the way to go.
> >
> > Anyone who's ever paid a visit to stratacafe.com knows that the Strata
> > people have got their stuff together. They have a single, neat,
>professionaly
> > organized hub in which to congregate. It seems to me (and correct me if
>I'm
> > wrong Carl) that the direction Carl is taking 3DXtract in, it looks to
>be the
> > Carrara communities answer to stratacafe.
> >
> > We don't need 40 or even just 2 or 3 scattershot, halfassed web sites
>that
> > represent the community. We just need a single good one. 3DXtract looks
>to
> > be it. Don't waste time reinventing the wheel, help improve the one
>we've
> > already got.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Carrara@(protected), "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> >> I want to make a carrara website with a furom, gallery, and other
> >> stuff,. I like this site but the messages arnt great. I want to
> >> organize messages into a forum so its easyer to use, what do you guys
> >> think? Should i make this website?
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:35:04 -0000
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Ok, sry, i did not know of the plans you already had for a website.
>I wasnt trying to steal your idea, i just didnt know.
>
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)> wrote:
> > Grogo and all!
> > I don't want to be a dink here, but don't you think that building on
> > something that currently exists and is "supported" already would be
>better?
> > I think that it's great you are excited about doing it, I only wish
>it
> > wasn't contributing to the mass amount of division and miscellany
>that
> > Carrara and Amapi already posses on the web. Again, if you would
>like to
> > help 3dXtract and offer ideas, suggestions, comments, complaints,
>or just
> > send awkward quotes about pigeons... Please do.
> >
> > Also, thanks darthbobvilla for the compliments and proper topic! I
>have
> > already received some suggestions directly and I should have
>thought of
> > posting the thread last month! If you have suggestions on what you
>would
> > like to see in the NEW FORUM AND USER GALLERIES, please send those
>too :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carl Desmond
> > carl@(protected)
> >
> > info@(protected)
> > http://www.3dXtract.com
> >
> >
> > On 12/28/03 7:23 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> >
> > > ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very
>simple
> > > forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe
>later
> > > if we get some people. If you guys have any images of something
>with
> > > carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:13:06 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>It's not "stealing" an idea. It's staying together as a community to apply
>the best use of our time and energy. Sharing ideas and techniques is what
>needs to happen. Your "idea" is valid. It's the application and direction
>that is my concern. If you honestly feel that your implementation would be
>better and serve the community, I say go for it. I am offering an argument
>that 3dXtract.com would best serve what you have in mind. Bringing the
>ezine
>materials together in one central place along with the forum and user
>galleries.
>
>Nothing will ever take the place of the Yahoo groups and it should stay in
>place as is. I know I would still participate regardless of any new forum.
>Again, if you would like to apply your energy along with 3dXtract.com, I am
>interested in hearing your suggestions and opinions in regards to the
>forum.
>By no means am I trying to stop you or shut you out, so please don't
>hesitate to respond to me directly and maybe we can come up with something
>better than what each of us can do individually.
>
>BTW, everything I am doing is custom and not prebuilt. So, it does cost
>more, (time and money) but the end result is tailor-made to fit what is
>needed. So please, your input is valued greatly.
>
>Thanks again and again!
>
>Carl Desmond
>carl@(protected)
>
>info@(protected)
>http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>On 12/28/03 11:35 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > Ok, sry, i did not know of the plans you already had for a website.
> > I wasnt trying to steal your idea, i just didnt know.
> >
> >
> > --- In Carrara@(protected), Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)> wrote:
> >> Grogo and all!
> >> I don't want to be a dink here, but don't you think that building on
> >> something that currently exists and is "supported" already would be
> > better?
> >> I think that it's great you are excited about doing it, I only wish
> > it
> >> wasn't contributing to the mass amount of division and miscellany
> > that
> >> Carrara and Amapi already posses on the web. Again, if you would
> > like to
> >> help 3dXtract and offer ideas, suggestions, comments, complaints,
> > or just
> >> send awkward quotes about pigeons... Please do.
> >>
> >> Also, thanks darthbobvilla for the compliments and proper topic! I
> > have
> >> already received some suggestions directly and I should have
> > thought of
> >> posting the thread last month! If you have suggestions on what you
> > would
> >> like to see in the NEW FORUM AND USER GALLERIES, please send those
> > too :)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Carl Desmond
> >> carl@(protected)
> >>
> >> info@(protected)
> >> http://www.3dXtract.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/28/03 7:23 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very
> > simple
> >>> forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe
> > later
> >>> if we get some people. If you guys have any images of something
> > with
> >>> carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:30:59 +0100
> From: nospam2 <nospam2@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Bonjour Carl,
>
>I would happily join my forces to a true open-source, collaborative Carrara
>forum/gallery/mailing list system built around the current 3DXtract system
>or re-designed from scratch.
>I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works that
>finally were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and I don't
>want to go on that route again.
>
>Please start to built a basic collaboration system, where we could discuss
>openly about strategies for 3DXtract, where we could see and propose code,
>where decisions are shared in some way.
>
>I suggest sourceforge.net, which already offer all the necessary tools for
>collaborative works.
>I also suggest Bugzilla, which has no equivalent for bug reporting.
>
>I see no reason why 3DXtract could not, at some point, replace the
>Yahoogroups if a few dozen programmers work on it.
>You know, Yahoogroups is based on a technology dated from the end of the
>90'. It has been completly deserted by programmers for many years, apart
>some minor bug correction.
>SO it would not be difficult to do much better.
>
>But once again, I won't give any help if it is not an open-source,
>collaborative project.
>
>Sunday, December 28, 2003, 9:14:00 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>CD> It's not "stealing" an idea. It's staying together as a community to
>apply
>CD> the best use of our time and energy. Sharing ideas and techniques is
>what
>CD> needs to happen. Your "idea" is valid. It's the application and
>direction
>CD> that is my concern. If you honestly feel that your implementation would
>be
>CD> better and serve the community, I say go for it. I am offering an
>argument
>CD> that 3dXtract.com would best serve what you have in mind. Bringing the
>ezine
>CD> materials together in one central place along with the forum and user
>CD> galleries.
>
>CD> Nothing will ever take the place of the Yahoo groups and it should stay
>in
>CD> place as is. I know I would still participate regardless of any new
>forum.
>CD> Again, if you would like to apply your energy along with 3dXtract.com,
>I am
>CD> interested in hearing your suggestions and opinions in regards to the
>forum.
>CD> By no means am I trying to stop you or shut you out, so please don't
>CD> hesitate to respond to me directly and maybe we can come up with
>something
>CD> better than what each of us can do individually.
>
>CD> BTW, everything I am doing is custom and not prebuilt. So, it does cost
>CD> more, (time and money) but the end result is tailor-made to fit what is
>CD> needed. So please, your input is valued greatly.
>
>CD> Thanks again and again!
>
>CD> Carl Desmond
>CD> carl@(protected)
>
>CD> info@(protected)
>CD> http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>CD> On 12/28/03 11:35 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
>
> >> Ok, sry, i did not know of the plans you already had for a website.
> >> I wasnt trying to steal your idea, i just didnt know.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In Carrara@(protected), Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)> wrote:
> >>> Grogo and all!
> >>> I don't want to be a dink here, but don't you think that building on
> >>> something that currently exists and is "supported" already would be
> >> better?
> >>> I think that it's great you are excited about doing it, I only wish
> >> it
> >>> wasn't contributing to the mass amount of division and miscellany
> >> that
> >>> Carrara and Amapi already posses on the web. Again, if you would
> >> like to
> >>> help 3dXtract and offer ideas, suggestions, comments, complaints,
> >> or just
> >>> send awkward quotes about pigeons... Please do.
> >>>
> >>> Also, thanks darthbobvilla for the compliments and proper topic! I
> >> have
> >>> already received some suggestions directly and I should have
> >> thought of
> >>> posting the thread last month! If you have suggestions on what you
> >> would
> >>> like to see in the NEW FORUM AND USER GALLERIES, please send those
> >> too :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Carl Desmond
> >>> carl@(protected)
> >>>
> >>> info@(protected)
> >>> http://www.3dXtract.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/28/03 7:23 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very
> >> simple
> >>>> forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe
> >> later
> >>>> if we get some people. If you guys have any images of something
> >> with
> >>>> carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
> >>
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>CD> To unsubscribe send a message to
>CD> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
>
>
>CD> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>CD> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>CD> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
>
>CD> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>CD> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
>
>CD> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>CD> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Best regards,
> nospam2 mailto:nospam2@(protected)
>
>
>
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>Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:01:49 -0000
> From: "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>i think 3DXtract is a cool idea. When i said that i wanted to make
>an organized forum it was only becuase i didnt know you had already
>started on 3DXtract. But now i do so ill leave it to you! good luck:)
>
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), nospam2 <nospam2@(protected)> wrote:
> > Bonjour Carl,
> >
> > I would happily join my forces to a true open-source, collaborative
>Carrara forum/gallery/mailing list system built around the current
>3DXtract system or re-designed from scratch.
> > I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works
>that finally were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and
>I don't want to go on that route again.
> >
> > Please start to built a basic collaboration system, where we could
>discuss openly about strategies for 3DXtract, where we could see and
>propose code, where decisions are shared in some way.
> >
> > I suggest sourceforge.net, which already offer all the necessary
>tools for collaborative works.
> > I also suggest Bugzilla, which has no equivalent for bug reporting.
> >
> > I see no reason why 3DXtract could not, at some point, replace the
>Yahoogroups if a few dozen programmers work on it.
> > You know, Yahoogroups is based on a technology dated from the end
>of the 90'. It has been completly deserted by programmers for many
>years, apart some minor bug correction.
> > SO it would not be difficult to do much better.
> >
> > But once again, I won't give any help if it is not an open-source,
>collaborative project.
> >
> > Sunday, December 28, 2003, 9:14:00 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > CD> It's not "stealing" an idea. It's staying together as a
>community to apply
> > CD> the best use of our time and energy. Sharing ideas and
>techniques is what
> > CD> needs to happen. Your "idea" is valid. It's the application and
>direction
> > CD> that is my concern. If you honestly feel that your
>implementation would be
> > CD> better and serve the community, I say go for it. I am offering
>an argument
> > CD> that 3dXtract.com would best serve what you have in mind.
>Bringing the ezine
> > CD> materials together in one central place along with the forum
>and user
> > CD> galleries.
> >
> > CD> Nothing will ever take the place of the Yahoo groups and it
>should stay in
> > CD> place as is. I know I would still participate regardless of any
>new forum.
> > CD> Again, if you would like to apply your energy along with
>3dXtract.com, I am
> > CD> interested in hearing your suggestions and opinions in regards
>to the forum.
> > CD> By no means am I trying to stop you or shut you out, so please
>don't
> > CD> hesitate to respond to me directly and maybe we can come up
>with something
> > CD> better than what each of us can do individually.
> >
> > CD> BTW, everything I am doing is custom and not prebuilt. So, it
>does cost
> > CD> more, (time and money) but the end result is tailor-made to fit
>what is
> > CD> needed. So please, your input is valued greatly.
> >
> > CD> Thanks again and again!
> >
> > CD> Carl Desmond
> > CD> carl@(protected)
> >
> > CD> info@(protected)
> > CD> http://www.3dXtract.com
> >
> >
> > CD> On 12/28/03 11:35 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> >
> > >> Ok, sry, i did not know of the plans you already had for a
>website.
> > >> I wasnt trying to steal your idea, i just didnt know.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In Carrara@(protected), Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)> wrote:
> > >>> Grogo and all!
> > >>> I don't want to be a dink here, but don't you think that
>building on
> > >>> something that currently exists and is "supported" already
>would be
> > >> better?
> > >>> I think that it's great you are excited about doing it, I only
>wish
> > >> it
> > >>> wasn't contributing to the mass amount of division and
>miscellany
> > >> that
> > >>> Carrara and Amapi already posses on the web. Again, if you would
> > >> like to
> > >>> help 3dXtract and offer ideas, suggestions, comments,
>complaints,
> > >> or just
> > >>> send awkward quotes about pigeons... Please do.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, thanks darthbobvilla for the compliments and proper
>topic! I
> > >> have
> > >>> already received some suggestions directly and I should have
> > >> thought of
> > >>> posting the thread last month! If you have suggestions on what
>you
> > >> would
> > >>> like to see in the NEW FORUM AND USER GALLERIES, please send
>those
> > >> too :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Carl Desmond
> > >>> carl@(protected)
> > >>>
> > >>> info@(protected)
> > >>> http://www.3dXtract.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 12/28/03 7:23 AM, "grogo21" <grogo21@(protected)> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> ok, great, ill start on tuesday,. But its going to be a very
> > >> simple
> > >>>> forum becuase i cant pay 60.00 to set a good one yet, but maybe
> > >> later
> > >>>> if we get some people. If you guys have any images of
>something
> > >> with
> > >>>> carrara please email it to me at grogo21@(protected) Thanx
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> To unsubscribe send a message to
> > >> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> > >>
> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> > >>
> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> > CD> To unsubscribe send a message to
> > CD> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> >
> > CD> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > CD> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > CD> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > CD> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > CD> Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > CD> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > CD> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > nospam2 mailto:nospam2@(protected)
>
>
>
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>Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:01:40 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>First and foremost.. Bonjour! It would be nice to have a translator for
>3dXtract - are you interested in that? As far as open-source? If it was
>feasible to go truly "open" I would. The problem is exactly how you
>described it...
>
>"I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works that
>finally were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and I don't
>want
>to go on that route again"
>
>I plan on producing something worth being a part of, but at the same time
>it
>needs to happen in a stages that are effective in both time, energy, and
>price range. I don't need to reinvent the wheel, just make it better. I
>think your approach is way more involved than I would like to see it. I was
>looking for more "input" on what would make it a great resource for Carrara
>and Amapi users (features, modifications). Also, I need to be responsible
>for it. Relying on others to stay with it would simply take it out of
>absolute control and cause more headaches than I need... Finding content
>each month is enough so far :)
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Desmond
>carl@(protected)
>
>info@(protected)
>http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>On 12/28/03 12:30 PM, "nospam2" <nospam2@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > Bonjour Carl,
> >
> > I would happily join my forces to a true open-source, collaborative
>Carrara
> > forum/gallery/mailing list system built around the current 3DXtract
>system or
> > re-designed from scratch.
> > I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works that
>finally
> > were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and I don't want to
>go on
> > that route again.
> >
> > Please start to built a basic collaboration system, where we could
>discuss
> > openly about strategies for 3DXtract, where we could see and propose
>code,
> > where decisions are shared in some way.
> >
> > I suggest sourceforge.net, which already offer all the necessary tools
>for
> > collaborative works.
> > I also suggest Bugzilla, which has no equivalent for bug reporting.
> >
> > I see no reason why 3DXtract could not, at some point, replace the
>Yahoogroups
> > if a few dozen programmers work on it.
> > You know, Yahoogroups is based on a technology dated from the end of the
>90'.
> > It has been completly deserted by programmers for many years, apart some
>minor
> > bug correction.
> > SO it would not be difficult to do much better.
> >
> > But once again, I won't give any help if it is not an open-source,
> > collaborative project.
> >
> > Sunday, December 28, 2003, 9:14:00 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>
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>Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:05:33 -0000
> From: "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Renderosity (http://www.renderosity.com) already has a threaded discussion
>forum,
>galleries, tutorials, contests - with prizes, etc. While this Yahoo group
>is a bit clunky
>compared to other forum sites, it has one thing that makes it better than
>the rest -
>Antoine and other Eovia staff. Also, there are a lot of VERY experienced
>users here,
>and your forums are only as good as the users who contribute. Unless
>people leave
>this place, or start frequenting both you'll be dependent on new
>experienced users
>finding and using your forum.
>
>If you want to create a website, go for it. But there is a lot to be said
>for minimizing
>the number of places people need to go to find Carrara info.
>
> - Jasen.
>
>
>
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>Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:25:09 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>I have spoken with EOVIA a lot about the development of 3dXtract and
>received a lot of support from them. They have been directly involved in
>the
>content and distribution. Antoine, Alex, Emily, Phil, Laurent, Matt... I
>think I am only missing a few... They have all had some input either
>directly or indirectly with 3dXtract. I think the fact that 3dXtract is
>specific to Carrara and Amapi makes it more appealing. Also, at
>renderosity,
>Carrara and Amapi seem to be lost in the shuffle. I realize that there are
>other sites and ezines, but none that are devoted to Carrara and Amapi.
>That
>is the intention... A place to call home and not share it with strangers :)
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Desmond
>carl@(protected)
>
>info@(protected)
>http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>
>On 12/28/03 1:05 PM, "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > Renderosity (http://www.renderosity.com) already has a threaded
>discussion
> > forum,
> > galleries, tutorials, contests - with prizes, etc. While this Yahoo
>group is
> > a bit clunky
> > compared to other forum sites, it has one thing that makes it better
>than the
> > rest -
> > Antoine and other Eovia staff. Also, there are a lot of VERY
>experienced
> > users here,
> > and your forums are only as good as the users who contribute. Unless
>people
> > leave
> > this place, or start frequenting both you'll be dependent on new
>experienced
> > users
> > finding and using your forum.
> >
> > If you want to create a website, go for it. But there is a lot to be
>said
> > for minimizing
> > the number of places people need to go to find Carrara info.
> >
> > - Jasen.
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrara/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Carrara-unsubscribe@(protected)
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:26:22 +0100
> From: nospam2 <nospam2@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Carrara Forum
>
>Bonjour Carl,
>
>I understand your point of view. Deciding alone is the quickest way to
>decide.
>It is an argumentable and reasonable choice than I don't have to discuss.
>It is yours.
>In many cases I also take this road, depending on the matter and what I
>want to acheive.
>Collaborative work surely slows any decision process (however it certainly
>speeds the implementation process when correctly tackled. Imagine you had
>started a collaborative work six monthes ago. Whith half a dozen
>programers, it could already contain all what you plan for the next three
>years.).
>
>I understand you may not feel like a working group catalyst and prefer the
>programming work.
>You may also have side-interests such has proving yourself/a potential
>client that you have some programing skills.
>It is perfectly legal and understandable.
>I am not discussing your choices.
>I was just explaining the reason why I am not in a hurry to join such a
>wagon.
>It is a mere question of workload.
>Whith three little children I have reached a point where I have no more
>time to spent on projects that don't give me some feedback.
>Open-source projects are giving return since one learn from others. Closed
>projects don't give that return.
>
>
>
>Sunday, December 28, 2003, 10:02:32 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>CD> First and foremost.. Bonjour! It would be nice to have a translator for
>CD> 3dXtract - are you interested in that? As far as open-source? If it was
>CD> feasible to go truly "open" I would. The problem is exactly how you
>CD> described it...
>
>CD> "I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works that
>CD> finally were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and I don't
>want
>CD> to go on that route again"
>
>CD> I plan on producing something worth being a part of, but at the same
>time it
>CD> needs to happen in a stages that are effective in both time, energy,
>and
>CD> price range. I don't need to reinvent the wheel, just make it better. I
>CD> think your approach is way more involved than I would like to see it. I
>was
>CD> looking for more "input" on what would make it a great resource for
>Carrara
>CD> and Amapi users (features, modifications). Also, I need to be
>responsible
>CD> for it. Relying on others to stay with it would simply take it out of
>CD> absolute control and cause more headaches than I need... Finding
>content
>CD> each month is enough so far :)
>
>CD> Thanks
>
>CD> Carl Desmond
>CD> carl@(protected)
>
>CD> info@(protected)
>CD> http://www.3dXtract.com
>
>
>CD> On 12/28/03 12:30 PM, "nospam2" <nospam2@(protected)> wrote:
>
> >> Bonjour Carl,
> >>
> >> I would happily join my forces to a true open-source, collaborative
>Carrara
> >> forum/gallery/mailing list system built around the current 3DXtract
>system or
> >> re-designed from scratch.
> >> I have done more energy than I should have to collaborative works that
>finally
> >> were not really collaborative, neither open-source, and I don't want to
>go on
> >> that route again.
> >>
> >> Please start to built a basic collaboration system, where we could
>discuss
> >> openly about strategies for 3DXtract, where we could see and propose
>code,
> >> where decisions are shared in some way.
> >>
> >> I suggest sourceforge.net, which already offer all the necessary tools
>for
> >> collaborative works.
> >> I also suggest Bugzilla, which has no equivalent for bug reporting.
> >>
> >> I see no reason why 3DXtract could not, at some point, replace the
>Yahoogroups
> >> if a few dozen programmers work on it.
> >> You know, Yahoogroups is based on a technology dated from the end of
>the 90'.
> >> It has been completly deserted by programmers for many years, apart
>some minor
> >> bug correction.
> >> SO it would not be difficult to do much better.
> >>
> >> But once again, I won't give any help if it is not an open-source,
> >> collaborative project.
> >>
> >> Sunday, December 28, 2003, 9:14:00 PM, you wrote:
>
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>Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:30:25 -0000
> From: "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)>
>Subject: NPR and isometric camera.
>
>I just tried an NPR render using an isometric camera and got an "unknown
>error". I
>restarted C, created a simple test scene and got the same thing. Is this a
>known bug?
>I'm using C 3.03 under Mac OS X.
>
>- Jasen.
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>Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:45:52 -0800
> From: Carl Desmond <carl@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: NPR and isometric camera.
>
>I just tried it and got the same result using OSX 10.2.7 3.03. Anyone else?
>
>On 12/28/03 1:30 PM, "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > I just tried an NPR render using an isometric camera and got an "unknown
> > error". I
> > restarted C, created a simple test scene and got the same thing. Is
>this a
> > known bug?
> > I'm using C 3.03 under Mac OS X.
> >
> > - Jasen.
> >
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>Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:45:51 -0000
> From: "whkguamusa" <guamauto@(protected)>
>Subject: Something off that "other" Carrara list - C3 handbook
>
>
>Cut from the Carrara forum over at Renderosity:
>
>"Accodring to Charles River Media (the publisher), the book is now
>shipping. Amazon doesn't have it yet, but you can order it direct
>from CRM - for $10 cheaper than Amazon (only in the US, though). I
>just ordered mine and had it shipped overnight. :)"
>
>mdc
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>Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 15:29:36 -0800
> From: Cecilia Ziemer <ziemer@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: NPR and isometric camera.
>
>Yep---OSX 10.1 & OS 9.2 both threw a 'nil pointer error' message when
>I tried it just now-
>
>
>
> >I just tried it and got the same result using OSX 10.2.7 3.03. Anyone
>else?
> >
> >On 12/28/03 1:30 PM, "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)> wrote:
> >
> >> I just tried an NPR render using an isometric camera and got an
>"unknown
> >> error". I
> >> restarted C, created a simple test scene and got the same thing. Is
>this a
> >> known bug?
> >> I'm using C 3.03 under Mac OS X.
> >>
> > > - Jasen.
>
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>Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:00:08 -0000
> From: "m3d242" <trippedup@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: NPR and isometric camera.
>
>Time to get Matt.
>
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), Cecilia Ziemer <ziemer@(protected)> wrote:
> > Yep---OSX 10.1 & OS 9.2 both threw a 'nil pointer error' message when
> > I tried it just now-
> >
> >
> >
> > >I just tried it and got the same result using OSX 10.2.7 3.03. Anyone
>else?
> > >
> > >On 12/28/03 1:30 PM, "Jasen Jacobsen" <jasenj1@(protected)> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just tried an NPR render using an isometric camera and got an
>"unknown
> > >> error". I
> > >> restarted C, created a simple test scene and got the same thing. Is
>this a
> > >> known bug?
> > >> I'm using C 3.03 under Mac OS X.
> > >>
> > > > - Jasen.
>
>
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>Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:23:31 -0600
> From: Harvey White <madyn@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: [Carrara] Carrara Sites
>
>On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:27:33 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >I have searched the internet for tips tutorials, plugins and other
> >genral Carrara websites and it seems that Carrara does not have that
> >big a web following. (Shame as it the best piece of software I have
> >found for a very long time).
> >
> >Any tips on where to look?
>
>www.netcom.com/~madyn and go to carrara, then tutorials, where there's
>some stuff on strobe simulation using formulas, but that's all I have.
>
>Harvey
>
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Mike R
>
>
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>Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:45:42 -0500
> From: "David Bell" <nordwind53@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: [Carrara] Carrara Sites
>
>Carrara has real power now ... it is often possible to look at the
>tutorials for high end packages and figure out how to do it in Carrara ...
>The basics apply across applications.
>
>Yours,
>David
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> -- -- Original Message -- --
> From: Harvey White
> To: Carrara@(protected)
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [carrara] [Carrara] Carrara Sites
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:27:33 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >I have searched the internet for tips tutorials, plugins and other
> >genral Carrara websites and it seems that Carrara does not have that
> >big a web following. (Shame as it the best piece of software I have
> >found for a very long time).
> >
> >Any tips on where to look?
>
> www.netcom.com/~madyn and go to carrara, then tutorials, where there's
> some stuff on strobe simulation using formulas, but that's all I have.
>
> Harvey
>
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Mike R
>
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>Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:18:31 -0000
> From: "Ron Franks" <rondfranks@(protected)>
>Subject: Re: Something off that "other" Carrara list - C3 handbook
>
>I ordered mine on Amazon almost a month ago, but their price is
>$34.97 with free shipping, so I guess I'll wait since that's cheaper
>than the publisher.
>
>I wish they'd hurry up and send it, though.
>
>Ron
>
>--- In Carrara@(protected), "whkguamusa" <guamauto@(protected)> wrote:
> >
> > Cut from the Carrara forum over at Renderosity:
> >
> > "Accodring to Charles River Media (the publisher), the book is now
> > shipping. Amazon doesn't have it yet, but you can order it direct
> > from CRM - for $10 cheaper than Amazon (only in the US, though). I
> > just ordered mine and had it shipped overnight. :)"
> >
> > mdc
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