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Re: Example of poser in CS3---- warning nudity !!!

Re: Example of poser in CS3---- warning nudity !!!

2003-12-12       - By Ruud van Wijngaarden

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op 12-12-2003 08:28 mailde Joshua Foster via Carrara@(protected):

> And what makes Poser the app of choice? I can render naked
> people...Where is the creativity, the art?


I seldom look at Poser renders on Renderosity, because I do not enjoy
looking at assembled scenes without a lot of vision behind it. But I expect
the people that are making the scenes are enjoying themselves. Some of them
might consider what they are doing 'art', but most of them don't.

But then again, the tools can never tell you if the end product can be
called art or will be 'creative'.

One can undress his wive and photograph her with a webcam, or an impressive
megapixel Nikon or even an original Hasselblatt, but the chance that the
result is 'art' depends on the lighting, setting and, eventually, the way
the woman looks (as in 'she looks moody').
The same goes for imported Poser figures, I guess. The concept of the
picture, what it does to the viewer, is more important then how he did it.
And of course art is in the eye of the beholder. Some people spend all of
their free-time making fractals. They consider it art. I find them boring.

I use Carrara for making images most of the time, not for art. Creativity is
important. For me, it is. I am not in the Assembly League. But I make my
living with it, so it is kind of logical.

If I need to picture a beautifull woman (I did snowy white once for a
client) it would be uneconomical to start from scratch if I decide to do it
in 3D. If I decide to draw her, the chance is big I will use photo
reference, or even draw over a photo. If I decide to photograph her, the
chance is big I will retouche a lot.
Either way I am cheating to create the best looking scene. Incorporating
some creativity, but never thinking about it as creating art.

The end result may be art to some people, but for me it is the endresult of
a process I enjoy.
Some purists don't want any postwork on renders. Some purist don't want any
model or texture that already exists. And them some people use Poser for
years and don't have a clue how one could create a texture.

Sometimes I creat simple geometries, make them transparant. Point some
lights, and hit 'render' to see the caustics, shadows, reflections and
refraction happening. Sometimes my jaw drops (in bullit time style
slow-motion, :-) and people will wonder how I ever conceived such a great
work of art. Other times it looks like, well, pointless geometries.
The tools are the same, even the process is the same. For me it would never
be 'art' or 'creative', but if gets people amazed, something happened.

I have seen beautifull pictures ( just look at the gallery of ToxicAngel:
http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=ToxicAngel some of
them start as Poser renders, others don't) and a lot of cr*p, the main
difference lies in the hands and mind that make it.



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