  | | | bsp tweaking and volume effects | bsp tweaking and volume effects 2005-07-06 - By kim aldis
Back but volumetric lights cast rays for the shadow calculations. Just try it, see what happens.
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of peterb Sent: 06 July 2005 15:18 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: Re: bsp tweaking and volume effects
this is a guess, but i would expect it not to matter. as far as I know, bsp is for storing geometry / triangles in memory, and looking those triangles up when shooting rays. if your geometry is as simple as you suggest, even "bad" bsp settings shouldnt slow it down. (but I might be completely wrong) I would look to the marching step settings and AA settings to speed things up. also, is you big volume light an area light?
I know nothing about binary space partitioning so this is a stab in the dark really..... but could tweaking the bsp settings have much effect on volume effects? I've nothing in my scene bar a semi transparent plate and a big volume light casting shadows - stained glass window style. I've got to set the ray-marching steps quite low but it's taking a couple of hours plus per frame which is unacceptable so...
Any ideas?
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