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Back Cheers Brad - what's the availabillity of dual core like at the moment? I thought they weren't readily available for a while? Cheers for the tips on cache (and it's relative importance) and the memory controller issues on dual procs.
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-- --Original Message-- -- From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Brad Friedman Sent: 21 June 2005 14:19 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: Re: CPUs and XSI/mental ray...
The larger the cache, the better. Especially for rendering. A larger cache means more rendering binary code can live closer to the CPU along with more data. Since rendering is such a repetitive process, cache is very important. It keeps one from taking too many memory access performance hits.
I have seen nothing but stunning benchmark results for AMD Dual Core chips.
As far as motherboards go, when it comes to AMD opteron dual proc systems, there are two main types:
1) The type in which a single memory controller is shared between the CPUs (in which case one CPU has slower memory access due to using a hypertransport pipe to get access to main memory)
2) The type in which each CPU has its own dedicated memory controller. This is faster.
The introduction of dual core opterons will make for a frightening machine for certain, with four cores spread over two CPUs. Though, with the uncertainty of mental ray licensing on dual cores... I don't know how that works out with regards to $$. Anyone know if mental images ever got around to telling us how licensing will be affected by dual core chips?
-brad
Lee Hallett wrote:
Very basic question: given the currently available hardware, what's the best processor for a kick-ass XSI/mental ray workstation? Any noteable considerations (Cache/motherboards etc)
*sorry, I know this should go to the hardware list, but the reponse is always minimal!*
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Especially for rendering. A larger cache means more rendering binary code can live closer to the CPU along with more data. Since rendering is such a repetitive process, cache is very important. It keeps one from taking too many memory access performance hits.<BR><BR>I have seen nothing but stunning benchmark results for AMD Dual Core chips.<BR><BR>As far as motherboards go, when it comes to AMD opteron dual proc systems, there are two main types:<BR><BR>1) The type in which a single memory controller is shared between the CPUs (in which case one CPU has slower memory access due to using a hypertransport pipe to get access to main memory)<BR><BR>2) The type in which each CPU has its own dedicated memory controller. This is faster.<BR><BR>The introduction of dual core opterons will make for a frightening machine for certain, with four cores spread over two CPUs. Though, with the uncertainty of mental ray licensing on dual cores... I don't know how that works out with regards to $$. Anyone know if mental images ever got around to telling us how licensing will be affected by dual core chips?<BR><BR>-brad<BR><BR>Lee Hallett wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid9970BA1C3E95C443B335A96FCCEEF82B04F23D@(protected) .uk type="cite"> <META content="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7226.0" name=Generator><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very basic question: given the currently available hardware, what's the best processor for a kick-ass XSI/mental ray workstation ? Any noteable considerations (Cache/motherboards etc)</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>*sorry, I know this should go to the hardware list , but the reponse is always minimal!* </FONT></P><BR> <UL> <P align=center><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lee|3d animation and design..</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=center><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P></UL> <P align=center><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial size=1>There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that understand binary, and those that don't.</FONT></SPAN></P><BR> <UL> <P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New"> </FONT><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>*</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma> </FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=1> BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House| Llandaff, Cardiff. 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