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CPUs and XSI/mental ray...

CPUs and XSI/mental ray...

2005-06-21       - By Lee Hallett

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Cheers Brad - what's the availabillity of dual core like at the moment?
I thought they weren't readily available for a while?

Cheers for the tips on cache (and it's relative importance) and the
memory controller issues on dual procs.




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-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf
Of Brad Friedman
Sent: 21 June 2005 14:19
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: CPUs and XSI/mental ray...


The larger the cache, the better.  Especially for rendering.  A larger
cache means more rendering binary code can live closer to the CPU along
with more data.  Since rendering is such a repetitive process, cache is
very important.  It keeps one from taking too many memory access
performance hits.

I have seen nothing but stunning benchmark results for AMD Dual Core
chips.

As far as motherboards go, when it comes to AMD opteron dual proc
systems, there are two main types:

1) The type in which a single memory controller is shared between the
CPUs (in which case one CPU has slower memory access due to using a
hypertransport pipe to get access to main memory)

2) The type in which each CPU has its own dedicated memory controller.
This is faster.

The introduction of dual core opterons will make for a frightening
machine for certain, with four cores spread over two CPUs.  Though, with
the uncertainty of mental ray licensing on dual cores... I don't know
how that works out with regards to $$.  Anyone know if mental images
ever got around to telling us how licensing will be affected by dual
core chips?

-brad

Lee Hallett wrote:

  Very basic question: given the currently available hardware,
what's the best processor for a kick-ass XSI/mental ray workstation? Any
noteable considerations (Cache/motherboards etc)

  *sorry, I know this should go to the hardware list, but the
reponse is always minimal!*  


    Lee|3d animation and design..

    Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke

  There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that
understand binary, and those that don't.


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XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: CPUs and XSI/mental
ray...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>The larger the cache, the better.&nbsp; Especially
for rendering.&nbsp; A larger cache means more rendering binary code can live
closer to the CPU along with more data.&nbsp; Since rendering is such a
repetitive process, cache is very important.&nbsp; It keeps one from taking too
many memory access performance hits.<BR><BR>I have seen nothing but stunning
benchmark results for AMD Dual Core chips.<BR><BR>As far as motherboards go,
when it comes to AMD opteron dual proc systems, there are two main
types:<BR><BR>1) The type in which a single memory controller is shared between
the CPUs (in which case one CPU has slower memory access due to using a
hypertransport pipe to get access to main memory)<BR><BR>2) The type in which
each CPU has its own dedicated memory controller.&nbsp; This is
faster.<BR><BR>The introduction of dual core opterons will make for a
frightening machine for certain, with four cores spread over two CPUs.&nbsp;
Though, with the uncertainty of mental ray licensing on dual cores... I don't
know how that works out with regards to $$.&nbsp; Anyone know if mental images
ever got around to telling us how licensing will be affected by dual core
chips?<BR><BR>-brad<BR><BR>Lee Hallett wrote:
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