  | | | XSI Petition: OT | XSI Petition: OT 2005-05-31 - By Brad Friedman
Back This reminds me of a silly thing that happened in the NYU computer labs. Not the ones for our department, which are specialized for 3d and compositing, but the general computer labs for the university.
They decided to buy full licenses of Maya Unlimited for all the macs in their "multi media" lab. Then, they refused to buy three button mice for the computers on the principal that they were macs, and they didn't want to confuse the students :)
-brad
Gene Crucean wrote:
>See, I think the biggest reason soft should look into this is because >of the whole education possibility. Think of how big apple is within >educational facilities and think of where and what those people using >those macs are going to want to use after they graduate. IMO, that's >when you would want to get xsi into the users hands... for the long >run anyways. > >-gc > > > >On 5/31/05, Raffaele ThE_JacO Fragapane <jaco@(protected)> wrote: > > >>May I be so blunt to point out the major flaw in these polls? >> >>They keep recurring on the list, cgtalk, xsibase, at usergroups... >> >>Now, please remind me what the amount of new licenses Soft would sell could >>be if the poll was successful between people who are ALREADY for the vast >>majority XSI users. >>In my book it would be between 5 and 20 ;) >> >>If you want these polls to have any weight start evangelizing the mac >>userbase that doesn't know XSI yet, and poll THEM for opinions. >>Actually now that I think of it, that was done on some mainstream OS-X forum >>some time ago, and the result of the poll were something like: >> >>1) Not interested, the apps we already have are more then enough for me >>[37%] >>2) would consider it if the price was brought down to line up with maya's >>and C4D (it was before foundation) [10%] >>3) Yes! I'd be all over it [3%] >>4) what's XSI? [50%] >> >>This is off the top of my head, but I think they are quite close to what the >>poll resulted into, try looking for cached forum pages on google maybe. >> >>I sort of like macs nowadays, and I COULD consider an Apple laptop one day >>if more SW I need gets ported to it and if Apple stops screwing with some >>companies, but I can't see the mac userbase to be this huge pool Soft really >>and absolutely wants to tap. >> >>From my days in Avid my experience with managing a mac userbase, and >>relationships with Apple, is that it's usually usually a serious PITA. >> >>P.S. >>They do have the sexiest workstation case with the G5 and the 30" >>cinemadisplay is gorgeous, shame the CPUs still come out as disappointing in >>all we tested here (we have a fair deal of G5s for shake and tryied some >>stuff on it) >> >>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --- >>~Raffaele Fragapane >>~Lead "I'm sure we can make it work" >>~Peerless Camera Company >>-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --- >> >> >> >>-- --Original Message-- -- >>From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of >>kim aldis >>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:36 AM >>To: XSI@(protected) >>Subject: RE: XSI Petition >> >>Maybe that's because everyone wants to use Xsi on OSX ;-) >> >> >> >> >>>-- --Original Message-- -- >>>From: owner-xsi@(protected) >>>[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Matt Lind >>>Sent: 30 May 2005 09:24 >>>To: xsi@(protected) >>>Subject: RE: XSI Petition >>> >>> >>> >> That being the case, common sense >> >> >>>says there's going to be even less interest (or >>>need) to port XSI to OSX. >>> >>> >>> >>--- >>Unsubscribe? Mail Majordomo@(protected) with the following text in body: >>unsubscribe xsi >> >>--- >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 14-Feb-05 (See http://Feb-05.ora-code.com) >> >> >>--- >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 14-Feb-05 (See http://Feb-05.ora-code.com) >> >> >>--- >>Unsubscribe? Mail Majordomo@(protected) with the following text in body: >>unsubscribe xsi >> >> >> > >--- >Unsubscribe? Mail Majordomo@(protected) with the following text in body: >unsubscribe xsi > >
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859 (See http://ISO-8859.ora-code.com)-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> This reminds me of a silly thing that happened in the NYU computer labs. Not the ones for our department, which are specialized for 3d and compositing, but the general computer labs for the university.<br> <br> They decided to buy full licenses of Maya Unlimited for all the macs in their "multi media" lab. Then, they refused to buy three button mice for the computers on the principal that they were macs, and they didn't want to confuse the students :)<br> <br> -brad<br> <br> Gene Crucean wrote: <blockquote cite="mid2757783105053118056f49a471@(protected)" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">See, I think the biggest reason soft should look into this is because of the whole education possibility. Think of how big apple is within educational facilities and think of where and what those people using those macs are going to want to use after they graduate. IMO, that's when you would want to get xsi into the users hands... for the long run anyways.
-gc
On 5/31/05, Raffaele ThE_JacO Fragapane <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href= "mailto:jaco@(protected)"><jaco@(protected)></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">May I be so blunt to point out the major flaw in these polls?
They keep recurring on the list, cgtalk, xsibase, at usergroups...
Now, please remind me what the amount of new licenses Soft would sell could be if the poll was successful between people who are ALREADY for the vast majority XSI users. In my book it would be between 5 and 20 ;)
If you want these polls to have any weight start evangelizing the mac userbase that doesn't know XSI yet, and poll THEM for opinions. Actually now that I think of it, that was done on some mainstream OS-X forum some time ago, and the result of the poll were something like:
1) Not interested, the apps we already have are more then enough for me [37%] 2) would consider it if the price was brought down to line up with maya's and C4D (it was before foundation) [10%] 3) Yes! I'd be all over it [3%] 4) what's XSI? [50%]
This is off the top of my head, but I think they are quite close to what the poll resulted into, try looking for cached forum pages on google maybe.
I sort of like macs nowadays, and I COULD consider an Apple laptop one day if more SW I need gets ported to it and if Apple stops screwing with some companies, but I can't see the mac userbase to be this huge pool Soft really and absolutely wants to tap.
>From my days in Avid my experience with managing a mac userbase, and relationships with Apple, is that it's usually usually a serious PITA.
P.S. They do have the sexiest workstation case with the G5 and the 30" cinemadisplay is gorgeous, shame the CPUs still come out as disappointing in all we tested here (we have a fair deal of G5s for shake and tryied some stuff on it)
-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --- ~Raffaele Fragapane ~Lead "I'm sure we can make it work" ~Peerless Camera Company -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---
-- --Original Message-- -- From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)" >owner-xsi@(protected)</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto :owner-xsi@(protected)">mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)</a>] On Behalf Of kim aldis Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:36 AM To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:XSI@(protected)">XSI @(protected)</a> Subject: RE: XSI Petition
Maybe that's because everyone wants to use Xsi on OSX ;-)
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">-- --Original Message-- -- From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)" >owner-xsi@(protected)</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)">mailto :owner-xsi@(protected)</a>] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: 30 May 2005 09:24 To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xsi@(protected)">xsi @(protected)</a> Subject: RE: XSI Petition
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