Maya main animation pipline in ILM ? for 3d characters ? hmm 2005-05-30 - By Andre DeAngelis
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I agree entirely with Guy, wrong choices and misplaced priorities. This
goes right back to the v1.0 days too.
As for the ILM Maya pipeline press release, it in itself could be very
misleading. I have read quotes from ILM employees that have said Maya
out of the box is next to useless to ILM. What they use and like is the
API, which goes back to the issues that Guy raised.
There is also rumors that ILK are crating/using their own animation
software "Zeno" and mainly using Maya for simulation. Who knows where
the trial truth lies?
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Subject: Re: Maya main animation pipline in ILM ? for 3d characters ?
hmm
[Matt]
> ../.. If you read between the lines, it implies Softimage
> is not up to the task of producing production ready
> software and/or supporting it at an adequate level ../..
.. certainly one of the major issues is more the lack of openess of the
software ( not the architecture ), than the support.
While a lot of efforts have been done recently - especialy at the SDK
and the UI level - imho wrong choices have been made regarding
priorities, wich is sad, because there are great teams of brillants
developers at Softimage.
We still dont have access to many core features, we can't add custom
'Objects' to the scene graph, we dont even have access to the SceneGraph
itself yet, despite years of requests, and there are a lot of other
customization issues.
This might seem insignificants to regular users/arstists, but in such
big and technicaly advanced companies, customization is the key, and
devs/tds are in the front line every days. When you hit walls again and
again, it's time to reconsidere your choices.
There is the CDH. You can do nearly everything with it. For sure. But
what about integration ? Yet you have to redo a good part of the
software everytime. This has clearly been designed with the game market
in mind. It's really great for this. But not for 'integrating' features.
Look at the Syflex 'integration'. Unable to communicate with the native
simulation environment(s). Some aborted attempts have been made by third
parties to port their plugin to XSI.
Is it not the time to put an hold on fancy features, and seriously work
on what is really needed ?
Softimage|XSI is a wonderfull Masterpiece of Software Engineering, loved
by everyone, but jealously kept closed by its Creators, and soon proudly
exposed in the Museum of Computer Graphics Archeology, if nothing is
done.
Please make me wong.
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guy rabiller | 3d technical director @ LaMaison
Matt Lind wrote:
> I don't think ILM is the center of the world either, but if the report
> is true it makes a pretty big statement when such a big studio
> installs XSI as the main commercial software of chioice for animation,
> then later tosses it out like an unfinished happy meal. If you read
> between the lines, it implies Softimage is not up to the task of
> producing production ready software and/or supporting it at an
> adequate level. The original poster doesn't have to supply an opinion
> to get the point of the story across.
>
>
> Matt
>
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> Re: Maya main animation pipline in ILM ? for 3d characters ? hmm
> Date : Sun, 29 May 2005 20:23:06 -0400
> To : XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>
>> From : Bernard Lebel <3dbernard(at)gmail.com>
>
> Subject : Re: Maya main animation pipline in ILM ? for 3d characters ?
> hmm
>
> Never intended to flame anyone.
> But the starter of this thread never voiced an opinion, only "mmm"s.
> Unless a top guy from ILM cares to answer our question, pretty
> anything that will be said in this thread is pure speculation and
> personal opinion based on "I know a guy who works there..."-type of
> comments. In short, I guess we'll see once again that discussion
> regarding XSI vs Maya vs ILM vs big studios vs small studios vs
> proprietary software vs wishlist and so on and so on.
>
> As far as I'm concerned I feel that ILM is not the center of the
> world, so if they drop all but Maya it won't make a change in what I
> think about the softwares. In fact, I don't care, and I don't
> understand why it seems to be such a sensitive subject.
>
>
> Cheers
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