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Pre-rendered? Bite your tongue Robert.
And if you believe that, I have some Iraqi WMD's to sell you. ;-)
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Lyn
Caudle
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:30 AM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Re: New generation game play
Robert Moodie wrote:
So you reckon they put out a pre-rendered piece to get people excited about the
game then?
;-)
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From: Brad Friedman <mailto:xsibrad@(protected)>
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: New generation game play
Tell me if I'm wrong... but isn't that likely to be (or at least
incorporate a lot from) a "look test" for their game? We had a producer
from EA come by our school a few months ago and he explained that at the
beginning of every one of their game production cycles, they produce a
pre-rendered piece thats supposed to be their target for gameplay. So
they try and keep the geometry, shaders and particles at the level that
they expect will fit in the game engine, but pre-render it. I would
think that would explain the confusion. Its meant to look like
something that might be made on the PS3 with PS3 level assets but its
all glossed up for a promotional piece and pre-rendered. So looking for
tell-tale signs of it being realtime or pre-rendered is simply going to
create confusion given that some elements are designed to look realtime
and others likely are not.
Thats my theory based on conjecture... anyway.
-brad
André Adam wrote:
> Putting the rather excessive demolition models aside, particle effects
> and the detail of the vehicles and landscape don't seem too way off.
> Will overall look way less appealing with a regular ingame camera and
> more repeditive track elements, though.
>
> -André
>
> kim aldis wrote:
>
>> http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type=mov
>> <http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type=mov>
>>
>> anyone in games care to comment on whether or not we really can
>> expect this level of quality in the next gen consoles? If we can,
>> I'll have 4.
>>
>> kim@(protected)
>> kim@(protected)
>>
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Sure this is possible but if you look at the Unreal 2007 link on ign you see
that its not prerendered its realtime.
Watch the two vids one shows the action the other is the presenters moving
around and making a point to show that its for real.
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748505/vids_1.html
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 18, 2005
10:30 AM<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: New generation game
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>So you reckon they put out a pre-rendered piece to
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tell me if I'm wrong... but isn't that likely to be
(or at least <br>
incorporate a lot from) a "look test" for their game? We had a
producer <br>
from EA come by our school a few months ago and he explained that at the <br>
beginning of every one of their game production cycles, they produce a <br>
pre-rendered piece thats supposed to be their target for gameplay. So <br>
they try and keep the geometry, shaders and particles at the level that <br>
they expect will fit in the game engine, but pre-render it. I would <br>
think that would explain the confusion. Its meant to look like <br>
something that might be made on the PS3 with PS3 level assets but its <br>
all glossed up for a promotional piece and pre-rendered. So looking for
<br>
tell-tale signs of it being realtime or pre-rendered is simply going to <br>
create confusion given that some elements are designed to look realtime <br>
and others likely are not.<br>
<br>
Thats my theory based on conjecture... anyway.<br>
<br>
-brad<br>
<br>
André Adam wrote:<br>
<br>
> Putting the rather excessive demolition models aside, particle effects <br>
> and the detail of the vehicles and landscape don't seem too way off. <br>
> Will overall look way less appealing with a regular ingame camera and <br>
> more repeditive track elements, though.<br>
><br>
> -André<br>
><br>
> kim aldis wrote:<br>
><br>
>> <a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type=mov"
>http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type=mov</a>
<br>
>> <<a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type
=mov">http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5841&type=mov</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> anyone in games care to comment on whether or not we really can <br>
>> expect this level of quality in the next gen consoles? If we can, <br>
>> I'll have 4.<br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="mailto:kim@(protected)">kim@(protected)</a>
<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kim@(protected)">kim@(protected)</a><br>
>> <br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sure this is possible but
if you look at the Unreal 2007 link on ign you see that its not prerendered its
realtime.<br>
Watch the two vids one shows the action the other is the presenters moving
around and making a point to show that its for real.<br>
<a href="http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748505/vids_1.html">http://media
.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748505/vids_1.html</a><br>
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