bugs 2005-05-07 - By Nick
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As I said previously, I thought it had to do with all the new
PCIExpress Nvidia FX cards and drivers. As far as workstyle goes, all
I was doing which consistently made XSI crash was to have something
selected which has animation on it and hitting "0" to bring up a
floating Animation Editor. Nothing really amazing or outrageous there
I'd say... other machines nada, stable as. Same scenes, same setups.
Go figure.
On 5/7/05, kim aldis <kim@(protected)> wrote:
> My experience is that it's pretty stable. I could probably count on it
> crashing less than once or twice a week this past 6-9 months. It got a bit
> weird for a while when I was pushing hair quite hard but nothing I couldn't
> work with and I was using a viariety of machines at a number of sites. �t
> has to be machine or workstyle specific.
>
>
> > -- --Original Message-- --
> > From: owner-xsi@(protected)
> > [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Nick
> > Sent: 07 May 2005 14:53
> > To: XSI@(protected)
> > Subject: Re: bugs
> >
> > I should have read the rest of the posts and replies...
> > anyway, I was running on a single monitor, 1600x1200, running
> > firefox and mozilla in the background. It would also do it
> > when nothing else was running in the background.
> >
> > I too love the software, even if it doesn't come across quite
> > so clearly. Isn't it with the things you love the most that
> > you are the toughest? X-)
> >
> > On 5/7/05, Nick <nick.petit@(protected)> wrote:
> > > I've had these every day for 6 months and every time I had
> > a crash, I
> > > used their tool for sending the crash data to them (sorry, right in
> > > the middle of a move have no access to a machine with XSI
> > on it and I
> > > can't recall the name for it...). I figured that if I sent enough,
> > > they'd eventually get the idea of just how much the
> > software is buggy
> > > (with openGL) and painful to use on a daily basis... but to
> > be fair to
> > > the Soft people, I'm not sure if it's an XSI thing (with the new
> > > arrival of openGL, directX and CG displays being supported)
> > or the new
> > > generation of NVidia cards and the new PCIExpress stuff and
> > dodgy new
> > > drivers from NVidia... either way, it's been a huge pain ever since
> > > 4.0... being using the new gen hardware and not being able to test
> > > with older cards/drivers I don't know... either way it
> > makes it really
> > > hard to work with the Animation Editors... In a way, I'm
> > glad I'm not
> > > the only experiencing this, I thought I was going
> > completely insane...
> > > that was just the tip of the iceberg as we were doing all our work
> > > with real-time shaders and captures from the viewports...
> > >
> > > On 5/5/05, Matt Hollingsworth <matth@(protected)> wrote:
> > > > Hey Bernard,
> > > >
> > > > So, the network thing fries you as well? I see it with
> > Combustion
> > > > and Shake as well. Major pain. But, you've never
> > encountered the
> > > > other stuff? What version are you using? We're running
> > > > 4.2.2005.0215-QFE8 here at work, and believe me, I am not
> > isolated
> > > > on thsi front. I'm surrounded by guys having the same
> > troubles, whether running NT or XP.
> > > > Some of this stuff is understandable, just wondering if there are
> > > > some good work arounds. For isntance, with the animation editor
> > > > woes; if I right click on a paramter and go to it's
> > animation editor, often it
> > > > kills the software. I cant' NOT do this, it's a
> > necessary part of my
> > > > work flow. I suppose I could mark things and open it in
> > a pane, but
> > > > hate that clutter. And, if I try the alternate route of
> > opening up
> > > > the dual monitor animation layout, it often will crash
> > then anyway.
> > > > As for copy and paste, I've had lots of trouble with various
> > > > iterations of that; often cannot copy and paste shaders
> > within the
> > > > same render tree, often cannot copy animation from one particle
> > > > emitter to another, often cannot copy animation on
> > position or color
> > > > for the gradient in the rendertree etc etc etc. I see it all the
> > > > time on all sorts of completely different parts of the program.
> > > > Wondering if it's maybe this version we're running. Still, it's
> > > > better than the version of 4.0 we were running a year ago which
> > > > would crash during undo or right mouse clicks often.
> > Also, could be something inhouse here, you never know.
> > > > Just wondering if others are in the same boat at all.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the reply,
> > > >
> > > > -M
> > > >
> > > > Bernard Lebel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I never had any of these problems EXCEPT for the
> > network thing. If
> > > > > more people had these problems you'd hear about it a lot more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Bernard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/4/05, *Matt Hollingsworth* <matth@(protected)
> > > > > <mailto:matth@(protected)>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Man, getting sick of some of these bugs in XSI.
> > Does anybody know if
> > > > > there is some huge open GL bug or something? I
> > constantly have
> > > > > crashes
> > > > > when opening the freestanding windows for many
> > things, but mostly the
> > > > > animation mixer adn animation editor. In the shop
> > here, it's
> > > > > known that
> > > > > you should either open those in a viewport or save
> > before trying
> > > > > to open
> > > > > the freestanding window. That, and I often have
> > crashes when
> > > > > changing
> > > > > my layout. And while copying and pasting is not
> > causing crashes,
> > > > > I sure
> > > > > wish they'd fix it. There are many different areas
> > where it jsut does
> > > > > not work properly. Also, to me, seems like XSI is
> > particularly
> > > > > sensitive to networks that are bogged down a bit.
> > And, no, this
> > > > > is not
> > > > > isolated to my machine or my preferences. I also
> > notice that when my
> > > > > comps get a heavy node count that I am forced to
> > use those little
> > > > > navigation windows, and I really really HATE those
> > things. Would
> > > > > much
> > > > > rather move around on my own. Same thing in the
> > render tree.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is anybody else having these troubles, or is anyone
> > aware of easy
> > > > > fixes
> > > > > for these? Just getting sick of having more than 5
> > crashes every
> > > > > single
> > > > > day.
> > > > >
> > > > > And,does anybody know if there are any plans to
> > make XSI better
> > > > > able to
> > > > > deal with heavy triangle counts and super heavy scenes?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for any and all comments and help!
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > >
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