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Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)

Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)

2005-04-28       - By lpiasecki76

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Luc, since my question was 'bizzare', could you explain please, why then are
there two separate compiler optimization flags in VS2005 for AMD64 and
EM64T:

favor:EM64T and favor:AMD64 ?

If they are indeed identical, then separating those does not make sense to
me.



Luke





 __ __  

From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Benjamin Huber
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:51 PM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of
XSI)



now hold on - maybe i'm super duh! here but does that imply that whatever
64bit extensions intel added to their Xeons

is fully compatible with that AMD did earlier with their opterons?



thanks,



-ben

---
ben huber (x83291)
ilm digimatte
masters of funny cards
---

-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]On Behalf Of
Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of
XSI)

That's a bizzare question, because there is no way to make a 64-bit
application

that runs on AMD64 or Intel xeon 64-bit, without "compiling it for the
opteron".  

There is just one intruction set.

-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]On Behalf Of
lpiasecki76
Posted At: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:14 PM
Posted To: xsi
Conversation: Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version
of XSI)
Subject: Could anyone from Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of
XSI)

We will be getting 5-10 extra seats with either 64bit Opteron or Xeons.

Previously it seemed that AMD and SI were partners. With regards to the
64-bit version of XSI. Will it be 'targeted' (compiled) for Opterons or
Xeons? Could you please give us some preliminary speed benchmarks regarding
the performance of 64-bit XSI on 64-bit Opteron vs. Xeon systems?



Kind regards,



Luke Piasecki

QA Assurance Specialist

TVWorks - division of Comcast

tel.: 963-4327






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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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#8217;,
could you explain please, why then are there two separate compiler optimization
flags in VS2005 for AMD64 and EM64T:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>favor:EM64T and favor:AMD64 ?<o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If they are indeed identical, then
separating those does not make sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">XSI
@(protected)</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Could anyone from
Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>now hold on - maybe i'm super duh! here
but does that imply that whatever 64bit extensions intel added to their Xeons<
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>is fully compatible with that AMD did
earlier with their opterons?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ben
huber (x83291)</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ilm
digimatte</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>masters
of funny cards</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>---<
/span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of
</span></b>Luc-Eric
Rousseau<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, <st1:date
Year="2005" Day="28" Month="4" ls="trans" w:st="on">April 28, 2005</st1:date>
<st1:time
Minute="38" Hour="14" w:st="on">2:38 PM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">XSI
@(protected)</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Could anyone from
Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>That's a
bizzare question, because there is no way to make a 64-bit application</span><
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>that runs on
AMD64 or Intel xeon 64-bit, without &quot;compiling it for the
opteron&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>There is just
one intruction set.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-- --Original Message-- --<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of
</span></b>lpiasecki76<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Posted At:</span></b> Thursday, <st1:date
Year="2005" Day="28" Month="4" ls="trans" w:st="on">April 28, 2005</st1:date>
<st1:time
Minute="14" Hour="17" w:st="on">5:14 PM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Posted To:</span></b> xsi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Conversation:</span></b> Could anyone from
Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Could anyone from
Softimage please confirm (re 64bit version of XSI)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We will be getting 5-10 extra seats with either 64bit
Opteron or Xeons.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Previously it seemed that AMD and SI were partners. With
regards to the 64-bit version of XSI. Will it be &#8216;targeted&#8217;
(compiled) for Opterons or Xeons? Could you please give us some preliminary
speed benchmarks regarding the performance of 64-bit XSI on 64-bit Opteron vs.
Xeon systems?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Luke Piasecki<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>QA Assurance Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>TVWorks &#8211; division of Comcast<o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>tel.: 963-4327<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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