  | | | getting so tired of this message | getting so tired of this message 2005-04-20 - By Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane
Back Remember that a recovery option, even when it doesn’t save a complete scene that you can use later on, can still save your life.
I don’t trust them to the point of using a recovery scene in the pipeline, and we explicitly prohibit using them here, no matter how many hours of work you lost in a crash.
However if you are modeling or animating you can always take all that is in your scene and export it as an eani file or as a dotxsi, same goes for tweaking stuff, where you can save presets anc caches for the operators or simulations you tweaked.
Using a recovered scene is a dangerous thing to do, but using elements extrapolated from it to rebuild it or update an older scene is perfectly safe and in some occasions a big time saver.
Due to the nature of most crashes and how they can scramble data in memory and temp files, it’s only normal that recovered scenes can often be unreliable, wouldn’t hold that against Soft. It’s still good that it does try and fish up whatever it can though since very often you can use elements from that scene.
~Raffaele Fragapane ~Lead "I'm sure we can make it work" ~Peerless Camera Company
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:41 PM To: XSI@(protected) Subject: RE: getting so tired of this message
Hi Axel,
Thanks for the reply, but I'm hearing autosave also gives more trouble than it's worth.....
It's just plain silly having a recovery option that doesn't do the job right.
crashing seems to be related with materials/texture editing. Especially when copying models, making materials local and changing names and textures for the copy.
Must remind myself of the mantra: Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... ;)
rob wuijster
s-5 multimedia
holland
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Remember that a recovery option, even when it doesn’t save a complete scene that you can use later on, can still save your life.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t trust them to the point of using a recovery scene in the pipeline, and we explicitly prohibit using them here, no matter how many hours of work you lost in a crash.<o:p></o:p></span>< /font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>However if you are modeling or animating you can always take all that is in your scene and export it as an eani file or as a dotxsi, same goes for tweaking stuff, where you can save presets anc caches for the operators or simulations you tweaked.<o:p></o:p></span></font>< /p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Using a recovered scene is a dangerous thing to do, but using elements extrapolated from it to rebuild it or update an older scene is perfectly safe and in some occasions a big time saver.<o:p></o:p ></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Due to the nature of most crashes and how they can scramble data in memory and temp files, it’s only normal that recovered scenes can often be unreliable, wouldn’t hold that against Soft. It’s still good that it does try and fish up whatever it can though since very often you can use elements from that scene.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font ></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rob Wuijster<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:41 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">XSI @(protected)</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: getting so tired of this message</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Axel,</span></font><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks for the reply, but I'm hearing autosave also gives more trouble than it's worth.....</span></font> <span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It's just plain silly having a recovery option that doesn't do the job right.</span></font><span lang=DE><o :p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>crashing seems to be related with materials/texture editing. Especially when copying models, making materials local and changing names and textures for the copy.</span></font><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Must remind myself of the mantra: Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... Ctrl+S.... ;)</span></font><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>s-5 multimedia</span></font> <span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>holland</span></font><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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