XSI Constraints Problem 2005-04-15 - By Noodles
Back I don't know what the problem is off the top of my head, but here's some things to look into:
Is the movement consistent? Are they always going back to the same spot when you re-open the scene, or is it sporadic?
One thing you might check out is to go into your schematic and see if there 's any connections from your reference model to anything outside of itself. It could be the case where XSI didn't remember offsets that you had setup in your cross-model constraints. I know you said you deleted the constraint, but are there any other constraints or connections between models?
-Aaron Walsman Omation Studios
-- -- Original Message -- -- From: Victor Grant To: xsi@(protected) Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: XSI Constraints Problem
--A co-worker asked me to foward this to the list--
Hey, I'm having to animate on a project using XSI, but this is the first time I've used the program. I've run into a very strange problem which maybe someone has seen before and knows the solution...I hope.
Here's the situation. I have several creatures attacking a character, about 10. Everything is a refrence model, so there is one main character model and ten creatures from the same model. Each model is attached to a null so I can globally place them. In a good setup, this null or control would have been in the model, but it was not, so I added something I could use and adjust. I have no control over the models btw.
Some of the creatures need to bite and attach themselves to the character, inherting the characters motion since he is flailing around. To do this, I am using a pose constraint on the creatures and blending it to zero when they are off, and one when they are on. The rest are just moving about and attacking.
It all appears to work fine. I even make playblasts with the animation showing them jumping and attaching themselves. In other words, it works, there are no problems. So I save and keep going. However, when I reopen the progam and load the scene back up, the creatures that were constrained are not in the correct location. It is as if they have been offset. They still have the animated constraint, but they are not in the right location. Moving the global placer null has no effect for the constrained section either.
Here's the kicker. If I delete the constraint, reposition the global placer, do not reapply the constraint, save, close program and reopen reload, the creature will not be where I put him. Every other creature is in the right location, the ones who have never been constrained, but this one seems to be permanently broken. He's not even constrained anymore but he is still being offset!
I can fix this all I want, and it will look fine in the program. But once I close the scene and reopen it, it will be broken. This is very frustrating because I have no idea how to fix it or why it is even doing this.
The refrence models have not changed, they are the same files as when I started.
Any thoughts or insights would be greatly appreciated. -- ---- ---- ---- ----- Victor Grant CafeFX <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859 (See http://iso-8859.ora-code.com)-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know what the problem is off the top of my head, but here's some things to look into:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Is the movement consistent? Are they always going back to the same spot when you re-open the scene, or is it sporadic?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> One thing you might check out is to go into your schematic and see if there's any connections from your reference model to anything outside of itself. It could be the case where XSI didn 't remember offsets that you had setup in your cross-model constraints. I know you said you deleted the constraint, but are there any other constraints or connections between models?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Aaron Walsman</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Omation Studios</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">-- -- Original Message -- -- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=victor@(protected) href="mailto:victor@(protected)">Victor Grant</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=xsi@(protected) href="mailto:xsi@(protected)">xsi@(protected)</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 15, 2005 11:26 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> XSI Constraints Problem</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <DIV>--A co-worker asked me to foward this to the list--</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hey,</DIV> <DIV>I'm having to animate on a project using XSI, but this is the first time I've used the program. I've run into a very strange problem which maybe someone has seen before and knows the solution...I hope.<BR><BR>Here's the situation. I have several creatures attacking a character, about 10. Everything is a refrence model, so there is one main character model and ten creatures from the same model. Each model is attached to a null so I can globally place them. In a good setup, this null or control would have been in the model, but it was not, so I added something I could use and adjust. I have no control over the models btw.<BR><BR>Some of the creatures need to bite and attach themselves to the character, inherting the characters motion since he is flailing around. To do this, I am using a pose constraint on the creatures and blending it to zero when they are off, and one when they are on. The rest are just moving about and attacking.<BR><BR>It all appears to work fine. I even make playblasts with the animation showing them jumping and attaching themselves. In other words, it works, there are no problems. So I save and keep going. However, when I reopen the progam and load the scene back up, the creatures that were constrained are not in the correct location. It is as if they have been offset. They still have the animated constraint, but they are not in the right location. Moving the global placer null has no effect for the constrained section either.<BR><BR>Here's the kicker. If I delete the constraint, reposition the global placer, do not reapply the constraint, save , close program and reopen reload, the creature will not be where I put him. Every other creature is in the right location, the ones who have never been constrained, but this one seems to be permanently broken. He's not even constrained anymore but he is still being offset!<BR><BR>I can fix this all I want, and it will look fine in the program. But once I close the scene and reopen it, it will be broken. This is very frustrating because I have no idea how to fix it or why it is even doing this.<BR><BR>The refrence models have not changed, they are the same files as when I started.<BR><BR>Any thoughts or insights would be greatly appreciated.</DIV><!-- / message --><!-- sig --></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- ---- ---- ---- -----<BR>Victor Grant<BR>CafeFX</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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