  | | | Simulating a chain whip | Simulating a chain whip 2005-04-11 - By Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane
Back Had to work on something similar a few months ago, but it was a chain uncurling not really a wipping motion.
Ended up using chained RBDs constraints and having a curve generated by the intermediate points, then duplicated links from animation on top of the curve, with motion blur and everything it looked pretty convincing, and it respects the first rule of a chain
constant length, which string ops and cloth simulation with their stretchy springs will not give you.
~Raffaele Fragapane ~Lead "I'm sure we can make it work" ~Peerless Camera Company
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Marc-Andre Carbonneau Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:54 PM To: XSI@(protected) Subject: Simulating a chain whip
Hi
I am looking for advice about creating a convincing aggressive chain whip animation.
I was asked to find a way to simulate it as it would probably look more realistic than if an animator handles it.
Trying with Syflex right now but not really getting good results.. it seems as if its missing some of the weight transfer physic.
Any suggestion is welcome.
Thanks!
P.s. We tried with XSI Tails and its really not working for us.
Marc-André Carbonneau
FX artist Cinematics
Prince of Persia 3
Ubisoft Montréal
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Had to work on something similar a few months ago, but it was a chain uncurling not really a wipping motion.<o:p></o:p ></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ended up using chained RBDs constraints and having a curve generated by the intermediate points, then duplicated links from animation on top of the curve, with motion blur and everything it looked pretty convincing, and it respects the first rule of a chain… constant length, which string ops and cloth simulation with their stretchy springs will not give you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am looking for advice about creating a convincing aggressive chain whip animation.<o:p></o:p></span></font> </p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I was asked to find a way to simulate it as it would probably look more realistic than if an animator handles it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Trying with Syflex right now but not really getting good results.. it seems as if it’s missing some of the weight transfer physic.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any suggestion is welcome.<o:p></o:p ></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>P.s. We tried with XSI Tails and it’s really not working for us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><strong><b><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana; color:maroon'>Marc-André Carbonneau</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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