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Sharing overrides

Sharing overrides

2005-04-08       - By kim aldis

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OK, but you can still put these on a custom pset.

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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Axel Akesson
Sent: 08 April 2005 15:27
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: AW: Sharing overrides


Kim, sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough.

I use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change
every material if I want to change something with the displacement
textures/shaders). I don’t override the geoapprox property.

I hope that is clear enough.

Axel

-- --Ursprüngliche Nachricht-- --
Von: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] Im Auftrag von
kim aldis
Bereitgestellt: Freitag, 8. April 2005 15:34
Bereitgestellt in: XSI
Unterhaltung: Sharing overrides
Betreff: RE: Sharing overrides

2 possibilities;

use a custom property with an expression on it to drive the displacement.

or, remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects and
use the scene level property to control the displacement.

The former is probably preferable.


 __ __  

From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Axel Akesson
Sent: 08 April 2005 14:10
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Sharing overrides
Hi,

Is it possible in 4.2 to share an override?

I have a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the entire
scene. I use an override on the partition to drive the displacement but
whenever I have to change something I have to copy and paste this override
to all the other passes and partitions (I do this by a script but it still
take time).
What I would like to have is a way to share overrides between different
passes so I could just change the displacement in one pass and it would be
changed throughout the scene.

Currently not possible??

<rant>
And material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change a
material in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have to
cut the override or move it to an empty partition to be able to change the
material. This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I hope Softimage
will give us the choice to unlock materials or set the default lock
behaviour to on or off in the next release. I could see the use for a larger
studio where you dont want people to touch your shaders but it should not be
impossible to turn this behaviour OFF.
<end rant>

Cheers,
Axel


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 <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected)
 [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Axel
 Akesson<BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 April 2005 15:27<BR><B>To:</B>
 XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: Sharing
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 sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB">I
 use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change every
 material if I want to change something with the displacement
 textures/shaders). I don’t override the geoapprox
 property.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
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 hope that is clear enough.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-- --Ursprüngliche
 Nachricht-- --<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Von:</SPAN></B>
 owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B><SPAN
 style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag von </SPAN></B>kim aldis<BR><B><SPAN
 style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Bereitgestellt:</SPAN></B> Freitag, 8. April 2005
 15:34<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Bereitgestellt in:</SPAN></B>
 XSI<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Unterhaltung:</SPAN></B> Sharing
 overrides<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> RE:
 Sharing overrides</SPAN></FONT></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2
 possibilities;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
 size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">use a
 custom property with an expression on it to drive the
 displacement.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
 size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">or,
 remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects and use
the
 scene level property to control the displacement.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
 size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
 <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
 former is probably preferable.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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   owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Axel Akesson<BR><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 08 April 2005 14:10<BR><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> XSI@(protected)<BR><B><SPAN
   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Sharing
   overrides</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US
   style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Hi,<o
:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p>
&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Is it
   possible in 4.2 to share an override?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p>
&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I
have
   a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the entire scene. I
   use an override on the partition to drive the displacement but whenever I
   have to change something I have to copy and paste this override to all the
   other passes and partitions (I do this by a script but it still take
   time).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What
I
   would like to have is a way to share overrides between different passes so
I
   could just change the displacement in one pass and it would be changed
   throughout the scene.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p>
&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"
>Currently
   not possible??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p>
&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">&lt
;rant&gt;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">And
   material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change a
   material in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have to
   cut the override or move it to an empty partition to be able to change the
   material. This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I hope Softimage
   will give us the choice to unlock materials or set the default lock
   behaviour to on or off in the next release. I could see the use for a
larger
   studio where you dont want people to touch your shaders but it should not
be
   impossible to turn this behaviour OFF.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
   <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
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;end
   rant&gt;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<SPAN
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   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p>
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<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"
>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<SPAN
   lang=EN-GB
   style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Axel
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<SPAN
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