  | | | AW: Sharing overrides | AW: Sharing overrides 2005-04-08 - By Axel Akesson
Back Kim, sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough. I use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change every material if I want to change something with the displacement textures/shaders). I dont override the geoapprox property. I hope that is clear enough. Axel -- --Ursprüngliche Nachricht-- -- Von: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] Im Auftrag von kim aldis Bereitgestellt: Freitag, 8. April 2005 15:34 Bereitgestellt in: XSI Unterhaltung: Sharing overrides Betreff: RE: Sharing overrides 2 possibilities; use a custom property with an expression on it to drive the displacement. or, remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects and use the scene level property to control the displacement. The former is probably preferable.
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of Axel Akesson Sent: 08 April 2005 14:10 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: Sharing overrides Hi, Is it possible in 4.2 to share an override? I have a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the entire scene. I use an override on the partition to drive the displacement but whenever I have to change something I have to copy and paste this override to all the other passes and partitions (I do this by a script but it still take time). What I would like to have is a way to share overrides between different passes so I could just change the displacement in one pass and it would be changed throughout the scene. Currently not possible?? <rant> And material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change a material in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have to cut the override or move it to an empty partition to be able to change the material. This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I hope Softimage will give us the choice to unlock materials or set the default lock behaviour to on or off in the next release. I could see the use for a larger studio where you dont want people to touch your shaders but it should not be impossible to turn this behaviour OFF. <end rant> Cheers, Axel
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB' >Kim, sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change every material if I want to change something with the displacement textures/shaders). I don’t override the geoapprox property.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I hope that is clear enough.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB' >Axel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-- --Ursprüngliche Nachricht-- -- <br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>kim aldis<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bereitgestellt:</span></b> Freitag, 8. April 2005 15:34<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bereitgestellt in:</span></b> XSI<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Unterhaltung:</span></b> Sharing overrides<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> RE: Sharing overrides< /span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>2 possibilities;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>use a custom property with an expression on it to drive the displacement.</span>< /font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>or, remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects and use the scene level property to control the displacement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The former is probably preferable.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;font-weight: bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Axel Akesson<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 April 2005 14:10<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> XSI@(protected)<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Sharing overrides</span>< /font><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB' >Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Is it possible in 4.2 to share an override?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I have a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the entire scene. I use an override on the partition to drive the displacement but whenever I have to change something I have to copy and paste this override to all the other passes and partitions (I do this by a script but it still take time).<o:p ></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB' >What I would like to have is a way to share overrides between different passes so I could just change the displacement in one pass and it would be changed throughout the scene.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <rant><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB' >And material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change a material in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have to cut the override or move it to an empty partition to be able to change the material. This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I hope Softimage will give us the choice to unlock materials or set the default lock behaviour to on or off in the next release. I could see the use for a larger studio where you dont want people to touch your shaders but it should not be impossible to turn this behaviour OFF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <end rant><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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