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AW: Sharing overrides

AW: Sharing overrides

2005-04-08       - By Axel Akesson

 Back
Kim, sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough.

I use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change
every material if I want to change something with the displacement
textures/shaders). I don’t override the geoapprox property.

I hope that is clear enough.

Axel

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Von: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] Im Auftrag
von kim aldis
Bereitgestellt: Freitag, 8. April 2005 15:34
Bereitgestellt in: XSI
Unterhaltung: Sharing overrides
Betreff: RE: Sharing overrides

2 possibilities;

use a custom property with an expression on it to drive the
displacement.

or, remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects
and use the scene level property to control the displacement.

The former is probably preferable.


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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf
Of Axel Akesson
Sent: 08 April 2005 14:10
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: Sharing overrides
Hi,

Is it possible in 4.2 to share an override?

I have a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the
entire scene. I use an override on the partition to drive the
displacement but whenever I have to change something I have to copy and
paste this override to all the other passes and partitions (I do this by
a script but it still take time).
What I would like to have is a way to share overrides between different
passes so I could just change the displacement in one pass and it would
be changed throughout the scene.

Currently not possible??

<rant>
And material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change
a material in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have
to cut the override or move it to an empty partition to be able to
change the material. This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I
hope Softimage will give us the choice to unlock materials or set the
default lock behaviour to on or off in the next release. I could see the
use for a larger studio where you dont want people to touch your shaders
but it should not be impossible to turn this behaviour OFF.
<end rant>

Cheers,
Axel


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>Kim,
sorry but I think I wasnt clear enough.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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use rendertree nodes on the override (so I dont have to go and change every
material if I want to change something with the displacement textures/shaders).
I don&#8217;t override the geoapprox property.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-- --Ursprüngliche Nachricht-- --
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> owner-xsi@(protected)
[mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag
von </span></b>kim aldis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bereitgestellt:</span></b> Freitag, 8. April
2005 15:34<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bereitgestellt in:</span></b> XSI<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Unterhaltung:</span></b> Sharing overrides<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> RE: Sharing overrides<
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>2
possibilities;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>use a
custom property with an expression on it to drive the displacement.</span><
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>or,
remove all the geometry approximation properties from your objects and use the
scene level property to control the displacement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The
former is probably preferable.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Axel Akesson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 April 2005 14:10<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> XSI@(protected)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Sharing overrides</span><
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Is
it possible in 4.2 to share an override?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I
have a quite heavy scene and the displacement is the same in the entire scene.
I use an override on the partition to drive the displacement but whenever I
have to change something I have to copy and paste this override to all the
other passes and partitions (I do this by a script but it still take time).<o:p
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'
>What
I would like to have is a way to share overrides between different passes so I
could just change the displacement in one pass and it would be changed
throughout the scene.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'
>Currently
not possible??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>
&lt;rant&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'
>And
material locks is still driving me insane.... if you want to change a material
in a partition that use an override it is locked and you have to cut the
override or move it to an empty partition to be able to change the material.
This is a major workflow-killer in my opinon and I hope Softimage will give us
the choice to unlock materials or set the default lock behaviour to on or off
in the next release. I could see the use for a larger studio where you dont
want people to touch your shaders but it should not be impossible to turn this
behaviour OFF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>
&lt;end
rant&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'
>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'
>Axel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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