  | | | fg map limitation? | fg map limitation? 2005-03-01 - By kim aldis
Back You're trying to render 500 frames plus all in one go??? It won't happen.
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of FLINX@(protected) Sent: 01 March 2005 14:14 To: XSI@(protected) Subject: fg map limitation?
hello ladies and gentlemen. something that's been bothering me for a while is now coming back at me, maybe someone can help. a longer scene - approx. 500 frames. all FG. usually I calculate scenes like that twice. first with bad antialiasing settings to generate the fg map, than full aa with frozen fg map. works like a charme in shorter scenes. now, if I'm doing longer scenes everytime I reach approx. 270mb of fg map size, the render crashes and I can't go on. it won't render any further and it won't take the so far generated map for further rendering. only solution up to now was splitting the scenes up in smaller parts, rendering with overlaps and doing a fade between them. this I could live with, having to do one or two scenes like that. but now I have a lot of longer scenes coming on and I wonder if there's another workaround this, cause setting up all this scenes, different names etc. would be pain in the you know where. thx, FLINX aka dominique schuchmann m.a.r.k.13 | head of vfx hohenstaufenstr.20 70178 stuttgart t: +49 (0)711 - 993393-11 f: +49 (0)711 - 993393-29 m: flinx@(protected) flinx@(protected) ............end of transmission...........
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It won't happen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>FLINX@(protected)<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 March 2005 14:14<BR><B>To:</B> XSI@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> fg map limitation?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">hello< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> ladies and gentlemen.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" >something</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> that& #8217;s been bothering me for a while is now coming back at me, maybe someone can help.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a</SPAN ></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> longer scene – approx. 500 frames. <SPAN class=GramE>all</SPAN> <SPAN class=SpellE>FG</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">usually </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> I calculate scenes like that twice. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">first< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> with bad <SPAN class=SpellE>antialiasing</SPAN> settings to generate the <SPAN class=SpellE>fg</SPAN> map, than full <SPAN class=SpellE>aa</SPAN> with frozen <SPAN class=SpellE>fg</SPAN> map.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">works< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> like a <SPAN class=SpellE>charme</SPAN> in shorter scenes.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">now< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">, if I& #8217;m doing longer scenes <SPAN class=SpellE>everytime</SPAN> I reach approx. 270mb of <SPAN class=SpellE>fg</SPAN> map size, the render crashes and I can’ ;t go on.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">it< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> won& #8217;t render any further and it won’t take the so far generated map for further rendering.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">only< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> solution up to now was splitting the scenes up in smaller parts, rendering with overlaps and doing a fade between them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">this< /SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> I could live with, having to do one or two scenes like that. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">but now I have a lot of longer scenes coming on and I wonder if there’s another workaround this, cause setting up all this scenes, different names etc. would be pain in the you know where.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">thx,<o :p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="OCR-A BT" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'OCR-A BT'; mso-no-proof: yes">FLINX< /SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="OCR-A BT" size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'OCR-A BT'; mso-no-proof: yes">aka dominique schuchmann</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"> <o :p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="OCR-A BT" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'OCR-A BT'; mso-no-proof: yes">m.a.r.k .13 | head of vfx</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"> <o :p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="OCR-A BT" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'OCR-A BT'; mso-no-proof: yes" >hohenstaufenstr.20</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="OCR-A BT" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'OCR-A BT'; mso-no-proof: yes">70178 stuttgart</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; 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