(can 't we all be friends?!!!) 2004-08-19 - By Marque Pierre S?ndergaard
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Right on. Sad but true.
*waiting for the annointed 'big boys' to dismiss it with a "nonsense, we
feel very welcome here!"*
Thanks
Marque
>From: "lpiasecki76" <lpiasecki76@(protected)>
>Reply-To: XSI@(protected)
>To: <XSI@(protected)>
>Subject: RE: Foundation maintenance... (can't we all be friends?!!!)
>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:25:46 -0400
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> > This thread went on a lot longer than it shoudl have Luke.
> >
> > Best put it to bed. Nothign personal meant by guy's comment I'm sure.
> >
> > AD
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>Perhaps it wasn't personal Andre, but some of the emails on this list
>directed towards me and often towards others have been escalating from
>innocent sarcasm to personal bashing, putdowns and insults lately. Some of
>the individuals have a bully attitude here where you're either a part of
>the
>gang and agree with their opinion, or you're being dissed because you dared
>to disagree. Democracy is not something that I observed on this list for a
>long time. What surprises me a bit, is that those threads are not abrogated
>by SI. But then again, I should not be surprised as a few weeks ago I have
>received a bit offensive email from one of the SI employees themselves.
>It appears ironic to me that we are all here due to a common interest and
>passion, yet many of us can not be friends. So unprofessional, pathetic and
>sad. I admit that I'm not without a blame. I wasn't contributing to the
>list
>for a long time other than flooding with some pointless emails. This
>however
>I find as no excuse for others to publicly insult and humiliate myself and
>often others. A few individuals on here believe that their opinion is much
>more valuable than others and if you don't agree with you deserve to get
>flamed. I've done it myself, too. This bully attitude has been escalating
>though. Others try to gain some attention by joining the insults, as in
>case
>of myself without even ever knowing me or talking to me personally. It's
>understandable - they are trying to hang around with the 'big boys' on
>here. Internet has given us a shield behind which we can hide, pretend to
>be
>brave and even going as far as insulting others, without the fear of
>getting
>our as*es kicked. I sometimes wonder if internet creates friends or
>enemies.
>I do believe that if we all met together at a party we'd have a great time.
>Yet here however, on a mailing list where we meet to share out passion,
>some
>people bully others out, insult them, humiliate them, discredit their
>opinions.
>Perhaps you might think "Luke it's only you". Well, after last thread about
>shader-balls and one other, I have received 7 or 8 emails from different
>people saying that they totally agreed with me but there were afraid of
>saying anything on the list because they didn't want to get flamed. Because
>these days if you say anything other than the 'big brothers' on the list
>you
>will get flamed by them all. Heck, if you say anything on the list it
>usually ends up as flaming war. This should not be happening and is indeed
>very sad imho.
>I personally decided from now on not to get into any of the flame wars, but
>I think it would be just so much more fun and easier if we would treat each
>other as equals on here and understand that we are all here for the same
>purpose and that even though out opinions often differ we are individuals
>with different needs, workflows and applications. I think that it is time
>we
>revoked some respect for others on this list.
>Don't bother (not you Andre, anyone :-) responding to this thread as I'm
>ignoring it from now on. I didn't write this to start another war, but just
>to hopefully give you all something to think about. We could and should all
>be friends on this list... we should all have respect for others and
>acknowledge the differences and even perhaps learn from them. Instead of
>abasing and abhorring and abnegating each other perhaps we should all get
>to
>know each other better.
>
>Luke
>
>
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