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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Grassball (Neto)
2. Re: Grassball (Neto)
3. RE: Windoze and my evil little cursor (Allen Partridge)
4. myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Drew Parker)
5. Re: Windoze and my evil little cursor (Daniel Isenhower)
6. Re: myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Mark Hill)
7. Re: myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Drew Parker)
8. Re: myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Dave Mennenoh)
9. Re: myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Alex da Franca)
10. Re: myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any ideas?
(Drew Parker)
11. question (David Keel)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:22:42 -0300
From: "Neto" <neto@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Grassball
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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> one tiny thing though, i'd set the resolution of the sphere resource
> down to 8-10.. it'll speed up a lot as at current you're pushing 25k+
> polygons.
I totally forgot that the default sphere has a little too much polygons :)
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From: "toxi" <toxi@(protected)>
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Grassball
> Neto wrote:
>
> > Little demo of the infamous "fur rendering".
>
> ..and it looks famously in-cre-di-bil� ;) definitely basis for some
> further experimentation...
>
> one tiny thing though, i'd set the resolution of the sphere resource
> down to 8-10.. it'll speed up a lot as at current you're pushing 25k+
> polygons.
>
> best, toxi.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:35:42 -0300
From: "Neto" <neto@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Grassball
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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> Excellent! Thanks for the code too, been playing around with it... <g>
>
>
> Dave
No problem.
This trick is pretty brute-force (and, surprisingly, it's exactly like the
"offical" fur rendering works, minus the dynamic surface generation and
resolution LOD). I think the only reason "fur rendering" only became more
known recently is the fact that GF3+ and Radeon8000+ cards got a good speed
boost at drawing blended polygons. Having so many overlayed semi-transparent
objects can surely hog a GF2.
But it's a very nice thing to use with demos. As example, replace the green
texture with a full white one with a few spaced out visible circles in the
alpha channel, and remove the UV waving code, and you'll have a glowing
sphere.
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From: "Dave Mennenoh" <dmennenoh@(protected)>
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Grassball
> Excellent! Thanks for the code too, been playing around with it... <g>
>
>
> Dave
> http://www.blurredistinction.com/director
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:02:23 -0500
From: "Allen Partridge" <partridge@(protected)>
Subject: RE: [Dir3d-l] Windoze and my evil little cursor
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Message-ID: <000f01c3db91$bab43920$d1fea8c0@(protected)>
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I don't have a different mouse -- but I'm going to try to dig something
up and run the test again. -- So far nobody else on list has chimed in
saying they are using the IBM optical mice -- so I'm presuming them
guilty until they are proven innocent.
--al
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From: dir3d-l-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:dir3d-l-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Dave
Mennenoh
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:07 AM
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Windoze and my evil little cursor
Hi guys, been following this as I think it's quite interesting, if not
bizzare. I did a little test to Allen, probably just like NC's and got
no
difference in fps depending on the cursor position. Also no difference
if
the cursor was invisible. Running XP Pro here...
You did mention you are using IBM optical miceon both machines... do you
possibly have a different mouse you could use? Or did you try that
already?
What video cards? Strange, strange, strange...
Dave
http://www.blurredistinction.com/director
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:09:51 -0500
From: "Drew Parker" <aparker_uncg@(protected)>
Subject: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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Okay, I came across a problem I haven't come up against before, and I was
hoping one of the kind people on this director list could give me some
advice. :)
I'm trying to dynamically create a bitmap, so as to create a "tooltip", or
text-overlay when the mouse goes over a certain model. Before trying to put
the code straight into my bigger application, I started with a small test
application (I usually like to do this for simplicities sake). The code
worked fine, but when I moved it into my larger application, it totally
crashes Director. Here's the code I'm using:
myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap)
-- ( this works fine in a simple Director movie)
However, running that line from within a script in my other, larger project,
is giving me this error and causing it to crash:
Object expected
me.init()
I haven't worked with dynamic bitmaps much, so I'm unfamiliar with them. I
have a couple of Director reference books and have been looking around on
the internet a lot, but haven't gotten to the source of the problem yet.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
- Drew
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:17:59 -0600
From: "Daniel Isenhower" <jml@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Windoze and my evil little cursor
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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> I don't have a different mouse -- but I'm going to try to dig something
> up and run the test again. -- So far nobody else on list has chimed in
> saying they are using the IBM optical mice -- so I'm presuming them
> guilty until they are proven innocent.
Does it have special software that runs with it?
-Daniel
www.somedumbsite.com
www.triinfinite.net
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:29:46 +1100
From: Mark Hill <mantis@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
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On 16/01/2004, at 5:09 AM, Drew Parker wrote:
> However, running that line from within a script in my other, larger
> project,
> is giving me this error and causing it to crash:
> Object expected
> me.init()
Check your script types... you probably have a movie script with an on
new() handler in it... change the script-type to a parent script and it
may fix things.
HTH :)
Mark Hill
xonko interactive
http://www.xonko.com
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:50:15 -0500
From: "Drew Parker" <aparker_uncg@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Message-ID: <LAW9-OE23ou2VythhOj0001006d@(protected)>
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Thanks for the suggestion Mark.
I checked the script type of the script calling the new (#bitmap) line, and
it is a parent script, actually. I tried switching it to movie just for
kicks and that didn't work either. :)
The script does have a on new() handler already, to initialize itself. One
suggestion I found on the internet for this problem was to make a dummy
script, call that from my current script, and in the dummy script have the
new (#bitmap) line. I'll try it to see if it works, but it seems like
there's got to be a better way then that?
- Drew
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From: "Mark Hill" <mantis@(protected)>
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
> On 16/01/2004, at 5:09 AM, Drew Parker wrote:
>
> > However, running that line from within a script in my other, larger
> > project,
> > is giving me this error and causing it to crash:
> > Object expected
> > me.init()
>
> Check your script types... you probably have a movie script with an on
> new() handler in it... change the script-type to a parent script and it
> may fix things.
>
> HTH :)
>
> Mark Hill
> xonko interactive
> http://www.xonko.com
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:59:37 -0600
From: "Dave Mennenoh" <dmennenoh@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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Are you making a new member? If so then
myNewBitmap = member(new(#bitmap))
might work better. If you're just wanting an image object then
myNewBitmap = image(width, height, depth)
might be a good choice.
Dave
http://www.blurredistinction.com/director
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:39:40 +0100
From: Alex da Franca <da.Franca@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
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At 13:50 Uhr -0500 15.01.2004, Drew Parker wrote:
>Thanks for the suggestion Mark.
>
>I checked the script type of the script calling the new (#bitmap) line, and
>it is a parent script, actually. I tried switching it to movie just for
>kicks and that didn't work either. :)
you got mark wrong.
he wasn't saying, that to check the script with
the new(#bitmap) line, but rather all your
scripts in the movie.
one of your scripts is pretended to be a parent
script with a private new() handler, but
mistankenly its scripttype is set to #movie
instead of #parent. now its new() handler catches
the new(#bitmap) since it is in a movie script
and therefore treated 'global'. since it doesn't
return a bitmap member, as you expect, you get
the error.
>
>The script does have a on new() handler already, to initialize itself. One
>suggestion I found on the internet for this problem was to make a dummy
>script, call that from my current script, and in the dummy script have the
>new (#bitmap) line.
that's a funny suggestion, where did you find it ?
in any case it won't solve your problem.
try this instead:
on correctScriptTypes
repeat with m = the number of castlibs down to 1
repeat with n = the number of members of castlib m down to 1
if member(n,m).type = #script then
if (script(member(n,m)).handlers()).getPos(#new) > 0 then
if member(n,m).scripttype = #movie then
put "Changed"&&member(n,m)&&"scripttype from #movie to #parent"
member(n,m).scripttype = #parent
end if
end if
end if
end repeat
end repeat
end
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:19:47 -0500
From: "Drew Parker" <aparker_uncg@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Message-ID: <LAW9-OE55vRFL1VSfxT000101d9@(protected)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859 (See http://iso-8859.ora-code.com)-1"
Thanks a lot Mark, Dave and Alex for trying to help me solve my problem!
It seems like had nailed the original problem, my scripts not all being
parent scripts, and the code snippet Alex posted worked like a charm.
Bravo! Now my programming is still crashing, of course, but not for those
reasons. :) But I think I can wrap my head around my current problems.
I came from doing C / C++ to Director's Lingo, so while on the surface the
general concepts are similiar in terms of programming, it looks like I still
need to learn a lot about how Director operates under the hood and why it
operates that way. Thanks again to everybody for the good suggestions.
It's great to see a list so active and read. I've been reading for a while,
and I just posted my question and now it's solved in a few hours... pretty
handy. I'll try to give back to the community with some answers of my own,
if any questions come up that I can answer. :)
- Drew
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From: "Alex da Franca" <da.Franca@(protected)>
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] myNewBitmap = new (#bitmap) giving a crash, any
ideas?
> At 13:50 Uhr -0500 15.01.2004, Drew Parker wrote:
> >Thanks for the suggestion Mark.
> >
> >I checked the script type of the script calling the new (#bitmap) line,
and
> >it is a parent script, actually. I tried switching it to movie just for
> >kicks and that didn't work either. :)
>
> you got mark wrong.
> he wasn't saying, that to check the script with
> the new(#bitmap) line, but rather all your
> scripts in the movie.
> one of your scripts is pretended to be a parent
> script with a private new() handler, but
> mistankenly its scripttype is set to #movie
> instead of #parent. now its new() handler catches
> the new(#bitmap) since it is in a movie script
> and therefore treated 'global'. since it doesn't
> return a bitmap member, as you expect, you get
> the error.
>
> >
> >The script does have a on new() handler already, to initialize itself.
One
> >suggestion I found on the internet for this problem was to make a dummy
> >script, call that from my current script, and in the dummy script have
the
> >new (#bitmap) line.
>
> that's a funny suggestion, where did you find it ?
> in any case it won't solve your problem.
>
> try this instead:
>
> on correctScriptTypes
> repeat with m = the number of castlibs down to 1
> repeat with n = the number of members of castlib m down to 1
> if member(n,m).type = #script then
> if (script(member(n,m)).handlers()).getPos(#new) > 0 then
> if member(n,m).scripttype = #movie then
> put "Changed"&&member(n,m)&&"scripttype from #movie to
#parent"
> member(n,m).scripttype = #parent
> end if
> end if
> end if
> end repeat
> end repeat
> end
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:41:14 +0000
From: "David Keel" <davidkeel007@(protected)>
Subject: [Dir3d-l] question
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
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Does anybody know how they made the water/ocean in the game Halo? It's quite
impressive, especialy on the beach. I've been messing around with this fur
code, and it has got me wondering if this might be an angle....
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