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Post_Logic - Mail paper... Just because it's more easy to create shape anims
with less points to move.
In other way, i prefere move 10 points than 50...
That's all.
Patrick :)
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: tekano
To: XSI@(protected)
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Change the operators order in the construction mode levels...
it kinda makes sense to me as the local subdiv refinement increases the
'actual' amount of vertices therefore the cluster shape you stored is trying to
deal only with the original count and not 'quite' knowing how to deal with the
new ones.. (or something).
whereas if you did the modelling mode 'Mesh Local Subdivision Op' before
activating the shape modeling mode 'Cluster Shape Combiner' you would get
correct results of course..
If you are really wanting to globally subdivide all polys then using numpad '
+' or changing geometry approximation subdivision settings *does* move the extra
'virtual' points generated in the way expected when shape animating.
perhaps there is some jiggery pokery in the construction modes that allows
for this - but I dont see how, that "Mesh Local Subdivision Op" dont seem to
want to move anywhere for me.. :)
Tek
-- -- Original Message -- --
From: Patrick Vier
To: Softimage - XSI list
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Change the operators order in the construction mode levels...
Bonjour All,
Just a simple question... How to modifie the operator order trought
the construction mode...
Juste an example :
1 - Get a sphere (poly)
2 - Select some points and create a cluster (ie mouth)
3 - Create 2 shape keys by Animate/Deform/Shape>Store Shape Key
4 - Add this keys inside a mixer... what a beautiful animation...
mmmmhhhh!!!
5 - Swith in poly mode "Y" and select all polys
6 - Do a "Local Sudbivision Refinement" (1 level and Catmul-Clark)
7 - Play time line and see the result... some points movments are bad
...
.. So if we can change the evaluation between "Mesh Local Subdivision
Op" (Modeling Mode) and "Cluster shape Combiner" (Shape Modeling), we can solve
this problem....
Some ideas or i miss something ???
Thank's
Patrick
*********
Patrick Vier
Post Logic
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>... Just because it's more easy to
create shape anims with less points to move.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>In other way, i prefere move 10
points than 50...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>That's all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Patrick :)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=XSI@(protected)
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:59
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Change the operators order
in the construction mode levels...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>it kinda makes sense to me as the
local subdiv refinement increases the 'actual' amount of vertices therefore
the cluster shape you stored is trying to deal only with the original count
and not 'quite' knowing how to deal with the new ones.. (or
something). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>whereas if you did the modelling
mode 'Mesh Local Subdivision Op' before activating the shape modeling
mode 'Cluster Shape Combiner' you would get correct results of
course..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>If you are really wanting to
globally subdivide all polys then using numpad '+' or changing
geometry approximation subdivision settings *does* move the extra 'virtual'
points generated in the way expected when shape animating.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>perhaps there is some jiggery
pokery in the construction modes that allows for this - but I dont see how,
that "Mesh Local Subdivision Op" dont seem to want to move anywhere for
me.. :) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Tek</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Change the operators order in
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<P align=left><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=#000033
size=2>Bonjour All,</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just a simple question... How
to
modifie the operator order trought the construction
mode...<BR>Juste an example :</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>1 - Get a sphere (poly)<BR>2 -
Select some points and create a cluster (ie mouth)<BR>3 - Create 2
shape keys by Animate/Deform/Shape>Store Shape Key<BR>4 - Add this
keys inside a mixer... what a beautiful animation... mmmmhhhh!!!<BR>5
- Swith in poly mode "Y" and select all polys<BR>6 - Do a "Local
Sudbivision Refinement" (1 level and Catmul-Clark)<BR>7 - Play
time line and see the result... some points movments are bad...<BR>..
So if we can change the evaluation between "Mesh Local Subdivision Op
"
(Modeling Mode) and "Cluster shape Combiner" (Shape Modeling), we can
solve this problem....</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some ideas or i miss
something ???<BR>Thank's</FONT></P>
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