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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Modeling Question... (Clint Little)
2. Possible work (Don Hays)
3. Yahhoooo!!! :) DIR MX 2004 (den ivanov)
4. Re: DIR MX 2004 MAL? (Roger Jones)
5. Re: Possible work (samuel girardin)
6. RE: DIR MX 2004 MAL? (Thomas Higgins)
7. DIR MX 2004 questions (Pascal Auberson)
8. Re: DIR MX 2004 questions (Lucas Meijer)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:04:01 -0500
From: "Clint Little" <clittle@(protected)>
Subject: RE: [Dir3d-l] Modeling Question...
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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Lucas,
Thanks for the insight! I appreciate the help...
Just to clarify, it would be better to have say 2 512s versus 8 128s. Is
that true?
Thanks,
-- Clint
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From: dir3d-l-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:dir3d-l-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Lucas Meijer
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:14 PM
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Modeling Question...
> I was just messing around with Max and stuff and started thinking about
> modeling for Dir 3D and the performance... So with that said, is it better
> from a texture standpoint to have a model that has more textures that are
> small or less textures that are large.
>
> Any thoughts or other recommendations?
less textures that are large. sw3d has a relativly large penalty for
each mesh being drawn. for each different texture in max, the exporter
creates a different shader in the w3d file. the model is split up in 1
mesh per shader.. so 4 textures gives you a 4 mesh model, which has 4
times this relatibly large speed hit.
As a rule of thumb, always make sure you have as little meshes per model
as possible, and as little models as possible. (group in max when you can)
Bye, Lucas
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:51:01 -0800
From: Don Hays <don@(protected)>
Subject: [Dir3d-l] Possible work
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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Hello everyone,
I've been lurking on this list for quite some time now just barely finding
the time to work on 3D in Director. But now I have a project that is above
my skill set and need to sub it out. If anyone is interested please contact
me off list. Here are some things that I can tell you which might interest
you or turn you off. Because of the tight deadline I will need working
examples to view.
1. Racing game (Oval Track)
2. CD-ROM and on-line (2 versions)
3. Tight turn around, January 19th (I know crazy isn't it)
Don Hays
Gearbox Studios
503.330.6154
www.gearboxstudios.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:50:00 +0300
From: "den ivanov" <den@(protected)>
Subject: [Dir3d-l] Yahhoooo!!! :) DIR MX 2004
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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http://www.macromedia.com/software/director/
/den
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:30:26 -0800
From: Roger Jones <roger@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] DIR MX 2004 MAL?
To: den ivanov <den@(protected)>, dir3d-l@(protected)
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On Jan 6, 2004, at 12:50 AM, den ivanov wrote:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/director/
>
> /den
>
Press release here
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2004/
directormx04_announce.html
>>>>
"Director MX 2004 brings a new level of interactivity to web and CD
content developers. The new 3D enhancements, along with the existing
Havok physics engine, greatly enhance the ability to develop fast
action 3D interactive games and virtual products."
- Mal Duffin, director
<<<<
Is Mal here? If so, now that the lid is off could you expand on what's
new on the 3D front in MX04?
RJ
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:23:28 +0100
From: "samuel girardin" <samuel.girardin@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] Possible work
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
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Just a test I made with director and havok. It's quite old, hard to
drive...
But quickly realised .
sam
www.chez.com/sgprod/start36.htm
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From: "Don Hays" <don@(protected)>
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:51 AM
Subject: [Dir3d-l] Possible work
> Hello everyone,
>
> I've been lurking on this list for quite some time now just barely finding
> the time to work on 3D in Director. But now I have a project that is above
> my skill set and need to sub it out. If anyone is interested please
contact
> me off list. Here are some things that I can tell you which might interest
> you or turn you off. Because of the tight deadline I will need working
> examples to view.
>
> 1. Racing game (Oval Track)
> 2. CD-ROM and on-line (2 versions)
> 3. Tight turn around, January 19th (I know crazy isn't it)
>
>
> Don Hays
> Gearbox Studios
> 503.330.6154
> www.gearboxstudios.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:55:39 -0800
From: Thomas Higgins <thiggins@(protected)>
Subject: RE: [Dir3d-l] DIR MX 2004 MAL?
To: "'dir3d-l@(protected)'"
<dir3d-l@(protected)>
Message-ID:
<AF3D4B6E3776C7459203A5CB01B976DB053567E2@(protected)>
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> Is Mal here? If so, now that the lid is off could you expand
> on what's new on the 3D front in MX04?
Well, I'm not Mal and I don't know that I can speak for him but I can talk a
bit about Director MX 2004 as it is something I do know about. ;) Yes, there
are 3D changes in this release but *please* cool the jets, the changes
coming down the pipe are nowhere near what folks here are going to
expect/want. No, we did not fix z-depth sorting of semi-transparent objects,
no we did not do robust rendering layer changes, please do not go overboard
with expectations. Gee, can you tell I'm trying to deflate the balloon
quickly? Sorry 'bout that...
We've implemented some isolated improvements dealing with ray casting (both
modelsUnderLoc and modelsUnderRay) as well as made changes to anti-aliasing
(hardware based support in DirectX). This is not the wanted version 2
release of the 3D engine so I don't want folks here to get wound up
expecting the whole pie and instead only getting a small slice. Here's a
quick summary of the 3D changes:
modelsUnderLoc and modelsUnderRay
These methods now take the old style calls or a new style call. The new
style allows you to specify additional parameters including a maximum ray
cast distance and a list of models among which to cast. Both of these
combined will allow you to make your ray casting calls more efficient as you
don't have to cast against the entire scene, only those in your list of
models and/or within the range specified.
anti-aliasing
If the end user has DirectX installed and their card/drivers support
hardware-based anti-aliasing you can then turn that on/off from within
Director as needed.
I'm around if any further questions come up.
Cheers,
Tom Higgins
Product Specialist - Director Team
Macromedia
Announcing Director MX 2004, de lekkerste!
http://www.macromedia.com/software/director
...
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:44:45 -0000
From: "Pascal Auberson" <pascal@(protected)>
Subject: [Dir3d-l] DIR MX 2004 questions
To: <dir3d-l@(protected)>
Message-ID: <000701c3d474$64ee0080$0c01000a@(protected)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Oh well, here are some questions, although I doubt you can answer them
all :)
- Is the wanted 3d xtra v2 going to happen and if so when?
- What kind of changes will there be to the shockwave download? Is this
a new version of everything or just some xtras?
- The website mentions an updated XML parser. Will this xtra be included
in the standard download now?
- When is the trial going to be available so we can have a play for
ourselves?
Thanks,
Pascal.
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: dir3d-l-bounces@(protected) [mailto:dir3d-l-
> bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Thomas Higgins
> Sent: 06 January 2004 15:56
> To: 'dir3d-l@(protected)'
> Subject: RE: [Dir3d-l] DIR MX 2004 MAL?
>
> > Is Mal here? If so, now that the lid is off could you expand
> > on what's new on the 3D front in MX04?
>
> Well, I'm not Mal and I don't know that I can speak for him but I can
talk
> a
> bit about Director MX 2004 as it is something I do know about. ;) Yes,
> there
> are 3D changes in this release but *please* cool the jets, the changes
> coming down the pipe are nowhere near what folks here are going to
> expect/want. No, we did not fix z-depth sorting of semi-transparent
> objects,
> no we did not do robust rendering layer changes, please do not go
> overboard
> with expectations. Gee, can you tell I'm trying to deflate the balloon
> quickly? Sorry 'bout that...
>
> We've implemented some isolated improvements dealing with ray casting
> (both
> modelsUnderLoc and modelsUnderRay) as well as made changes to anti-
> aliasing
> (hardware based support in DirectX). This is not the wanted version 2
> release of the 3D engine so I don't want folks here to get wound up
> expecting the whole pie and instead only getting a small slice. Here's
a
> quick summary of the 3D changes:
>
>
> modelsUnderLoc and modelsUnderRay
> These methods now take the old style calls or a new style call. The
new
> style allows you to specify additional parameters including a maximum
ray
> cast distance and a list of models among which to cast. Both of these
> combined will allow you to make your ray casting calls more efficient
as
> you
> don't have to cast against the entire scene, only those in your list
of
> models and/or within the range specified.
>
> anti-aliasing
> If the end user has DirectX installed and their card/drivers support
> hardware-based anti-aliasing you can then turn that on/off from within
> Director as needed.
>
>
> I'm around if any further questions come up.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Tom Higgins
> Product Specialist - Director Team
> Macromedia
>
> Announcing Director MX 2004, de lekkerste!
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/director
>
> ...
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:50:32 +0100
From: Lucas Meijer <lucas@(protected)>
Subject: Re: [Dir3d-l] DIR MX 2004 questions
To: dir3d-l@(protected)
Message-ID: <3FFAE758.1090209@(protected)>
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Since eveyrone is spilling the beans ;-)
> - Is the wanted 3d xtra v2 going to happen and if so when?
I'm not with macromedia in any way, but I'm sure the answer to this will
be 'we don't know'
> - What kind of changes will there be to the shockwave download? Is this
> a new version of everything or just some xtras?
the core player is updated, so you'll need pretty much a new version of
everything. I actually don't know if the install is able to recycle non
updated xtras or not.
> - The website mentions an updated XML parser. Will this xtra be included
> in the standard download now?
I'm not sure. Is it a big deal however? AFAIK the XML parser does not
throw the scary 'do you want to install this on your computer' dialogue.
Bye, Lucas
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