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Problems with Syflex

Problems with Syflex

2004-06-25       - By Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane

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I absolutely don't doubt you are having problems, but I'm a bit baffled
since Syflex behaved extraordinary well here (with the exception of the lack
of parameters for inerithed inertia on clusters and nails and the problems
creating partial cloth clusters, both workaroundable).

What you have seems to be a collision issue, in that case you could want to
try and reduce consistently the exterior envelope and raise the interior
one, so that the cloth will be able to sit down through the mesh without
jumping around.
Did you already try that?

How are simple scenes (the usual grid flapping on a torus and the such)
behaving for you?

Also syflex doesn't have a live mode, what it can do is always compute
(risky) or caching the very same computations.
I'd suggest to work with caching always pointing to a file and to bind the
clear cache command to a shortcut to make the recomputation process less
painful and clicky.

~Raffaele Fragapane
~Freelance Technical Animator & TD
~Senior TA @ Peerless Camera
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From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Chris Peltz
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 6:17 AM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: Problems with Syflex

Nope, I'm just trying to get the clothes to settle so that I can freeze an
initial state, so there is no movement on my model.  I tried it with nails,
and I tried it without nails... with the obstacle (my character) and without
(and all four combinations)... I didn't cache to a file... I was running in
live mode... like I said I just wanted the cloth to settle on my character
with gravity.

I tried playing all frames, but as I said the clothes, (a dress in this
case) merely disappears in the second frame.  It was very frustrating.

I tried all sorts of spring/damp settings as they recommended in both the
documentation and the tutorial... and the default settings... same result.
Did exactly the same thing with XSI cloth and everything worked as
expected...

Chris Peltz...


-- --Original Message-- --
From: owner-xsi@(protected) [mailto:owner-xsi@(protected)] On Behalf Of
Raffaele "ThE_JacO" Fragapane
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:14 PM
To: XSI@(protected)
Subject: RE: Problems with Syflex

Is the object animated, or the nails are, and at frame 1 or 2 the inherited
inertia is too high?

Honestly speaking I've been exploiting syflex massively both before it came
as a freebie with the advanced version and now, and found its strongest
point to be predictability and reliability.

Are you caching always to the same file or something like that maybe?
Because in that case re-reading an existing cache could be bitchy.

Also when you want to simulate by playing make sure you have "play all
frames" in the animation options, otherwise frames will be skipped and the
order of previous states that spring networks rely on will be messed up.

~Raffaele Fragapane
~Freelance Technical Animator & TD
~Senior TA @ Peerless Camera


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